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Jul 24 2020 05:19pm
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The problem with this argument is that even the most rabid Trump cult propagandists use stories everyday that the fact-based media breaks.

"Mainstream media sucks" is just a silly story right-wingers tell themselves, but they don't actually believe it. In practice, they rely on the media all the time.


if we stayed on the topic of the Washington Post sucking donkey balls though, I would absolutely be correct in my "argument"
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Jul 24 2020 05:24pm
Great, so now he gets to ride the coattails of this and become the next Kaitlin Bennett.

It's good that the news outlets are being held accountable for their reckless journalism though.
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Jul 24 2020 05:29pm
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Great, so now he gets to ride the coattails of this and become the next Kaitlin Bennett.

It's good that the news outlets are being held accountable for their reckless journalism though.


my favorite blunder by WaPo, was when they reported on the numbers of 'children in cages under Trump'

When it turned out they got their numbers from the Obama era - Did they make that minor correction to an important story?

Nah, they pulled it altogether as if it was "completely false"
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Jul 24 2020 05:32pm
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Great, so now he gets to ride the coattails of this and become the next Kaitlin Bennett.

It's good that the news outlets are being held accountable for their reckless journalism though.


Is that what it was? 33 posts in the thread and nobody has posted where the kid was defamed.

This post was edited by IceMage on Jul 24 2020 05:35pm
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Jul 24 2020 05:36pm
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There never seems to be actual outrage from the right, unless it involves white guys as the victim and certain groups(media, liberals, Democrats) as the perpetrators. And deflecting onto fringe groups, as you just did, is a tactic the right uses which highlights that they really don't give a shit about the underlying incidents.

It's simply the nature of news media that people react in real time to events. I don't know what WaPo got sued for, because any time this thread comes up nobody ever posts articles, but it's not that big of a deal. "We're going to wait to react to this video showing the stereotypical racist incident until we have 10 more angles" is just being unrealistic. This applies to left, right, and fact-based media.

I think you've just moved further into your bubble and aren't exposed to differing viewpoints, except when presented by people who agree with you.


Your first thought was to come here and berate the victim for being white and rich (was he actually even rich?). I'm not so sure I'm the one who needs to examine his biases.

The speaker of the House is tweeting about federal law enforcement as "storm-troopers". I don't know how more mainstream you want this to be before you come to terms that these "fringe groups" are mainstream elements within the Democratic party. Your argument is that I don't care about police brutality because I respond poorly to riots, looting, arson, and destruction of public property. It's a bad take. Skyrocketing murder rates in cities across the country are not some right-wing conspiracy. It's time to wake up and smell the coffee.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/body-found-in-minneapolis-building-burned-during-george-floyd-riots-11595382153

This is not acceptable behavior.
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Jul 24 2020 05:39pm
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Your first thought was to come here and berate the victim for being white and rich (was he actually even rich?). I'm not so sure I'm the one who needs to examine his biases.

The speaker of the House is tweeting about federal law enforcement as "storm-troopers". I don't know how more mainstream you want this to be before you come to terms that these "fringe groups" are mainstream elements within the Democratic party. Your argument is that I don't care about police brutality because I respond poorly to riots, looting, arson, and destruction of public property. It's a bad take. Skyrocketing murder rates in cities across the country are not some right-wing conspiracy. It's time to wake up and smell the coffee.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/body-found-in-minneapolis-building-burned-during-george-floyd-riots-11595382153

This is not acceptable behavior.


When one side breaks the social contract you can't really hold it against the other for breaking it as well. We haven't reasonably followed the social contract in this country, and as a result a significant portion of people are following the example that has been set.
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Jul 24 2020 05:43pm
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Is that what it was? 33 posts in the thread and nobody has posted where the kid was defamed.


While I haven't kept up with the story, and don't remember a great deal from when it first happened, I recall that a prevailing message in the media was that Nick Sandmann was "harassing an indigenous elder" and was the ring leader for a group of boys engaging in the same behavior.
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Jul 24 2020 05:44pm
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While I haven't kept up with the story, and don't remember a great deal from when it first happened, I recall that a prevailing message in the media was that Nick Sandmann was "harassing an indigenous elder" and was the ring leader for a group of boys engaging in the same behavior.


it was just 1 out of a tsunami of bad news stories that turned against innocent citizens of the country, based on bad facts and done in bad faith

WaPo will lead the way in news organizations being tried for treasonous actions against the USA
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Jul 24 2020 05:45pm
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While I haven't kept up with the story, and don't remember a great deal from when it first happened, I recall that a prevailing message in the media was that Nick Sandmann was "harassing an indigenous elder" and was the ring leader for a group of boys engaging in the same behavior.


This is also what I remember.

If anybody could post the stories that resulted in this lawsuit that'd be helpful.
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Jul 24 2020 05:48pm
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While I haven't kept up with the story, and don't remember a great deal from when it first happened, I recall that a prevailing message in the media was that Nick Sandmann was "harassing an indigenous elder" and was the ring leader for a group of boys engaging in the same behavior.


Yeah... I remember the general incident and aftermath well. It's just weird that there's so many people in the thread shitting on WaPo without actually posting what WaPo wrote.
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