Probably. And anti-China sentiment has really grown a lot recently, so defending Taiwan from Chinese aggression would probably be easier to sell than interventions in Ukraine or Syria. I still think that it's not a sure bet that the public would go along with it.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 19 2020 11:52pm

Depends how you construct your public.

American voters, i.e. not just journalists, party elites and Pentagon operatives.

hong kong was stolen to china in 1897 by british. taiwan was also part of china before the CCP.

Yes

this is a truly hilarious thread. military enthusiasts completely overestimating what the (certainly most advanced and powerful) navy would be able to accomplish, idiots fantasising about an all out war between china and the west, while completely ignoring that they have nukes. there will be no major military conflict. it's mutually assured destruction.
if china goes after taiwan, it will probably be a full-blown trade (and diplomatic) war, that would cripple the chinese economy, but also further devastate OUR already badly hit economies - but ultimately there is nothing we could do to prevent it, no matter how much we increase our military spending to buy 'exciting' new weapon systems and gadgets, feeding the MIC.

While I don't have any particular objections against defending Taiwan from Chinese oppression, this does make me wonder which responsibility the West has over this.
There are a great number of conflicts all over the world, where democracies are overthrown/invaded by tyrannies and imperialists. We are allowing most of that to happen, so I'm just trying to see why the situation in Taiwan is different from others.

This post was edited by Leevee on Jul 20 2020 04:13am

You heard it here first, folks. The USN would have a terrible go of it trying to sink troop transports.
And then there's this moronic assessment MAD only cuts one way.

so your reply to realising how asinine your attempt at overselling america's true power was, is two blatant strawmen? strong 'arguments' there, little buddy.

regarding the first: i explicitly acknowledged the sophistication and supremacy of the USN. you guys are undeniably the best at war (would be embarrassing if you weren't, considering you spend more than the next 7 largest militaries, many of which your allies), is that not enough for your little ego? you'd have a grand old time showing the chinese how those trillions of tax dollars were excellently invested - for bullying small nations without a nuclear arsenal. you'd probably sink a whole lot of 'troop transports', so at least you jingoists would vaporise with a proud feeling in your heart when the nukes drop.

regarding the second: of course it doesn't. that's why china wouldn't go to all-out war with you over iran, despite their close relationship. but that's not the scenario we're discussing here, so i didn't really think it was necessary to explain something so obvious. considering your previous posts, however, i really should have accounted for your inability to do even the simplest kind of critical thinking, as all you did was basically regurgitate navy propaganda videos that made you feel patriotic about pissing away healthcare and education for some exciting new toys...

They aren't talking about all out war or first strike/preemptive warfare.

This conflict cuts 3 ways. Either China and Taiwan back off again and just leave things as they are , China decides it's time to finish what never ended 70 years ago and the rest of the world engages in trade war/sanctions against them , or the US and its allies put Forces between Taiwan and China and let China decide its fate.

If the US Military is going to finally be used for a worthy cause like protecting legitimate democracies in Southeast Asia , then that's good.

You are being antagonistic because of bias. Nobody wants war with China. But the reality of China toppling and forcing Taiwan to be truly under "One China" is also something that cannot be allowed to happen. Hong Kong on top of it makes it even more fucked but Hong Kong is at least apart of China even if China is being shitty about it. But Taiwan is a country that has a rightful claim to sovereignty.

MAD is solid enough that the nukes of major powers won't be used. China is just confident for the first time in decades and are just pressuring/posturing to see how much they can get away with.

I'm scared though , mostly for Hong Kong and Taiwan's people.