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Jun 20 2020 05:07pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 20 2020 05:57pm)
>new president from opposing party gets elected
>all attorneys nominated by previous president announce they are investigating new president for {insert random offense}
>can no longer be fired or its obstruction of justice

https://i.imgur.com/Gp6YZZN.jpg


This doesnt usually happen regardless of whos party is in charge.

So maybe... Theres something different about this president.
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Jun 20 2020 05:10pm
Quote (excellence @ Jun 20 2020 06:38pm)
Slick Willie Clinton ordered the firing of only 93 out of 94 US Attorneys. All on the same day.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2017/03/12/firing_of_obama-appointed_us_attorneys_isn039t_scandalous_404830.html
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2007-mar-23-na-talking23-story.html

dont forgot, its the media who decides when something is an “issue” or not.


Excellence says the Clintons are the yardstick of virtue lol.
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Jun 20 2020 05:14pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Jun 20 2020 06:38pm)
Genuinely don’t know. Link me to something that’s shows this guy was investing trump.

Political firings & appointments happen all the time but the pearl clutching is pretty unprecedented with anything trump related.


They already prosecuted Cohen for a crime that implicated Trump, and it's been reported they were investigating Trump's personal attorney Guiliani. Who knows what else they are investigating.

Even if it were shown SDNY was investigating Trump, would that change your opinion at all? You'd just find a way to spin it in Trump's favor, as you do for basically everything.

Yes, political firings happen. This obviously isn't some normal political firing. For people who actually care about holding those in power accountable, this firing raises a number of questions.
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Jun 20 2020 05:16pm
Quote (excellence @ Jun 20 2020 06:38pm)
Slick Willie Clinton ordered the firing of only 93 out of 94 US Attorneys. All on the same day.
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/2017/03/12/firing_of_obama-appointed_us_attorneys_isn039t_scandalous_404830.html
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2007-mar-23-na-talking23-story.html

dont forgot, its the media who decides when something is an “issue” or not.


What does this have to do with anything? Yes, presidents get into office and appoint new US attorneys. We're in year 3 of the Trump administration, and Berman isn't an Obama holdover.
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Jun 20 2020 05:23pm
Quote (Skinned @ 20 Jun 2020 19:10)
Excellence says the Clintons are the yardstick of virtue lol.

authority given by law =\= virtue. not my fault you hate the candidates you vote for

Quote (IceMage @ 20 Jun 2020 19:16)
What does this have to do with anything? Yes, presidents get into office and appoint new US attorneys. We're in year 3 of the Trump administration, and Berman isn't an Obama holdover.

so this topic is much ado about nothing, good job lmao
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Jun 20 2020 05:24pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 20 2020 06:07pm)
This doesnt usually happen regardless of whos party is in charge.

So maybe... Theres something different about this president.


This usually happens with every president

Quote (IceMage @ Jun 20 2020 06:16pm)
What does this have to do with anything? Yes, presidents get into office and appoint new US attorneys. We're in year 3 of the Trump administration, and Berman isn't an Obama holdover.


Did you say the same thing when Bush cleared them out years in?

This post was edited by Goomshill on Jun 20 2020 05:25pm
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Jun 20 2020 05:37pm
Quote (excellence @ Jun 20 2020 07:23pm)
so this topic is much ado about nothing, good job lmao


Are you getting dumber or what?

Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 20 2020 07:24pm)
Did you say the same thing when Bush cleared them out years in?


Must we play the whataboutist game with everything? Bush fired 7 US attorneys and just reviewing the incident, it looks like it was controversial and was investigated.
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Jun 20 2020 05:47pm
Quote (IceMage @ Jun 20 2020 07:37pm)
Must we play the whataboutist game with everything?


yes
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Quote (IceMage @ Jun 20 2020 06:37pm)
Are you getting dumber or what?



Must we play the whataboutist game with everything? Bush fired 7 US attorneys and just reviewing the incident, it looks like it was controversial and was investigated.


if the question is whether its this usually happens regardless of whos party controls the white house, the answer is that its actually pretty normal and every president does it. They all sweep the last administrations attorneys at some point, whether right away or staggered or sometimes quite late into a term or even halfway into their second term. Trump did most of his just a few months in after Preet Bharara & co decided to grandstand and refuse to enforce the president's agenda rather than serve apolitically until their replacement could be confirmed. Specifically calling the Travel Ban unconstitutional, which years later saw Trump vindicated in court as it was declared constitutional by SCOTUS, rebuking the attorneys who denounced it. And of course, we're still in that same void left by Preet. Who was only kept on for those initial few months because Chuck Schumer promised Trump he was a neutral apolitical professional who could do his job without doing the exact kind of nonsense he did. Now its going to be up to Chuck Schumer to blue-slip Preet's replacement, over 3 years later. And if Biden wins, that replacement might only be there a few months

This post was edited by Goomshill on Jun 20 2020 05:50pm
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Jun 20 2020 05:53pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 20 2020 07:50pm)
if the question is whether its this usually happens regardless of whos party controls the white house, the answer is that its actually pretty normal and every president does it. They all sweep the last administrations attorneys at some point, whether right away or staggered or sometimes quite late into a term or even halfway into their second term. Trump did most of his just a few months in after Preet Bharara & co decided to grandstand and refuse to enforce the president's agenda rather than serve apolitically until their replacement could be confirmed. Specifically calling the Travel Ban unconstitutional, which years later saw Trump vindicated in court as it was declared constitutional by SCOTUS, rebuking the attorneys who denounced it. And of course, we're still in that same void left by Preet. Who was only kept on for those initial few months because Chuck Schumer promised Trump he was a neutral apolitical professional who could do his job without doing the exact kind of nonsense he did. Now its going to be up to Chuck Schumer to blue-slip Preet's replacement, over 3 years later. And if Biden wins, that replacement might only be there a few months


Replacing US attorneys at the beginning of an administration is normal. The way Berman was replaced was not, and neither was Bush's firings.
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