Those are just the first 5 names that popped into my head without even having to gather a list to remember names. I could pop Tamir Rice in there as well. Bottom line is, the problem has been prominent enough over the years to warrant some corrective action.

im not saying the police are perfect. but armchair judging is even worse...






thats a shame. sadly, the mind can rationalize away even personal experience when its contrary to something you really want to believe.

but is it a culture of racism? or a culture of abuse of power regardless of race? it seems more likely to be the latter in most cases. its very easy to point to a white guy killing a black guy and say "racist!!" but just because it looks racist doesnt mean that it actually is. i wont argue that there arent individual racist cops, im sure there are, but as an institution to claim that its racist? nope. doesnt seem likely, especially considering that there are many many black cops.

As I said, it's not so clearcut in most cases that you can draw a direct connection. But it is a factor.

For example, cops who just want to have good metrics will learn that young black males are more likely to commit crime. So cops will gain a predisposition to expect any particular black man to be doing something wrong.

Also, the fact that the job comes with a badge and a gun makes it appealing to a certain type of person. These people read on the news about a famous case where a cop gets a slap on the wrist for killing a black person.

5 out of 300,000,00 compromises a chance of about one in 60,000,000. You're literally more likely to get struck by lightning twice. And if it does happen the cops go to jail. Your argument is just pointless.

Those are just the first 5 names that popped into my head without even having to gather a list to remember names. I could pop Tamir Rice in there as well. Bottom line is, the problem has been prominent enough over the years to warrant some corrective action.

And ultimately, it isn't so much about the individual cases as what we learned about the legal process from seeing how those cases play out publicly. When we realize how reluctant the system is to enforce accountability on someone who is "one of their own", then we see that there is a problem. Because those results broadcast a message to the whole country saying "don't worry, cops won't be held accountable" which only serves to reinforce the problems.

This post was edited by Kayeto on Jun 17 2020 05:17pm

but again, that's the cardinal symptom of congestive heart failure. Its no more useful in distinguishing whether his death was caused by restraint or natural/drug induced heart attack, than the very fact he's dead.
I mean, you can say that there's a video of Chauvin putting his knee on the guy's neck, and now he's dead. And that's evidence, sure. Not hard to determine that he's dead. Poke him with a klingon painstik. But it doesn't distinguish if the death was actually caused by the knee on his neck. And the same with pulmonary edema and whether thoracic compression caused death. It shows the guy's heart stopped, and that's the result. Doesn't show why his heart stopped. In normal autopsies where chest compression was suspected as a cause of heart failure resulting in death, the distinguishing evidence would be compression injuries, broken ribs, bruising, injuries caused by strain, etc.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Jun 17 2020 05:24pm

You mean, like the congestion? Because that's nonspecific. It could be there for heart disease. It could be there because he was smothered.

Isn't death itself a nonspecific symptom in this case?
I mean I think we can rule out that he died of ebola or being struck by a meteorite or autoerotic asphyxiation. But we're not really pushing the dial in either direction