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Jun 16 2020 10:17pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Jun 16 2020 10:32pm)
Telling gay people that they don't exist is factually incorrect. It's not censorship. Buying ads opposing sensible regulation may be bad for the country, but it's not censorship. And while I think attempts to restrict science-based education in schools are ridiculous, curriculum is certainly within the purview of the school, and not censorship.


When you go out of your way to remove them from media it is censorship.

When you buy ads with the explicit purpose of influencing the media to downplay the scientific consensus, it is censorship.

When you are lobbying to remove science from the science class, it is censorship.

You guys are using a loose definition of censorship when it is convenient and a strict one when it isn't. I could just as easily say that Google restricting its ad sense to websites that advertisers want their material on is within their purview, and not censorship, since nobody is stopping the federalist from being hosted or writing, and I would be making the argument using a 1 to 1 correspondence with the logic you just used.

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in other news, the sun is hot.
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We lived in an era where gay people were told they didn't exist and including them in media was railed against, science was being censored via oil companies buying ads on major networks, and there was an active movement to suppress science in science classes in favor of religion.

We are not now in a fundamentally different era for free speech issues. The difference is that conservatives have been losing for ~10 years, and when conservatives lose their go-to is to change the rules.


No, that's just not a truthful description of what was going on. Attempts to make climate change denial stick have failed. Attempts at replacing a scientific worldview with creationism have largely failed. Attempts at keeping gays out of the mainstream have totally failed. Attempts at maintaining wedlock as the social norm have failed. (Remember how an extramarital affair was still a career-threatening scandal for a politician back in the 90s?)

The correct description is that conservatives have been gradually losing every culture wars battle since the 1960s, with the difference over the last decade being that they have now gotten so weak that they cant muster any kind of relevant offense anymore (like they still could in the 2000s) and are now purely on the defensive. The reason for this is the left's stranglehold on all sorts of opinion-forming institutions.

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Jun 17 2020 12:55am
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The Federalist is not demonetized according to the Twitter link. Zerohedge should probably not post racist articles.


Google should perhaps not be the ones to determine whether some other website is sufficiently racist to deserve economic annihilation.
Also, sole reason The Federalist escaped demonetization is that they gave in and agreed to censor their comment section according to Google's rules.
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Jun 17 2020 03:44am
They are publishing damaging content, this has a huge indirect cost to the society, and they should be punished for that.
Because they are claiming it's real news, this make them responsible of the commentaries they get on the website.

Google is still asscancer tho.

/nb: solution should be to labelize this content as "fictional news" with a big red logo.

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Quote (Ghot @ Jun 16 2020 06:07pm)
There was this guy... Ghot, who posted about Google censoring results, way back in 2016. Ofc course PaRD didn't like that very much. But today I see cnbc saying the same thing.
Amazing, just amazing.


There was this guy... Santara, who posted how Google was evil in direct contravention of their moot "don't be evil" a lot longer ago than that, and PaRD didn't agree then either.
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Quote (Santara @ Jun 17 2020 06:22am)
There was this guy... Santara, who posted how Google was evil in direct contravention of their moot "don't be evil" a lot longer ago than that, and PaRD didn't agree then either.



Proving once again how vicious and unaware PaRD can be. :D
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Quote (Ghot @ 17 Jun 2020 12:26)
Proving once again how vicious and unaware PaRD can be. :D


It's all funny for you to post dumb false or fake, conspiracists, memes, till the day you learn someone did some mass murders and got his ideas through the internet shit you posted. Such a great freedom lol
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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jun 17 2020 07:28am)
It's all funny for you to post dumb false or fake, conspiracists, memes, till the day you learn someone did some mass murders and got his ideas through the internet shit you posted. Such a great freedom lol




Lemme get the straight... you're gonna blame ME for psychopaths? Have I got that right? :lol:



/e ...and this coming from a guy who posts nothing but divisive, inciting pics, comments, etc.?

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