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That's false. The WHO is funded by China. China is trying to kill Americans.


The number of deaths due to asymptomatic contagion is dwarfed by the deaths caused by the social distancing circlejerk.
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Jun 9 2020 08:27pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ Jun 9 2020 10:15pm)
The full quote is that they won't "condemn" them as risky. Which, to me, is within a specific context. They're not saying that by not condemning them as "risky" that therefore there is no risk. What they're saying is that as medical professionals they're speaking out against people who want to use public health concerns to shut the protests down and keep them from happening. The people who are condemning the protests out of concerns over Covid-19 do so through a specific narrative, which includes a desire to see the protests stopped and prohibited.



Can you elaborate?


people were being ticketed and fined $1k-5k regularly for where i live with politicans and medical professionals regularly sending out communications about the dangers of public gatherings during the pandemic

same politicans two weeks later


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Quote (Handcuffs @ Jun 9 2020 10:15pm)
The full quote is that they won't "condemn" them as risky. Which, to me, is within a specific context. They're not saying that by not condemning them as "risky" that therefore there is no risk. What they're saying is that as medical professionals they're speaking out against people who want to use public health concerns to shut the protests down and keep them from happening. The people who are condemning the protests out of concerns over Covid-19 do so through a specific narrative, which includes a desire to see the protests stopped and prohibited.



Can you elaborate?


Pointing out different standards and narratives is just that and not intended to stop protests. The reason i'm pointing it out is not to shut down the protesters but to explicitly expose these double standards. Two weeks ago people were calling the governors of southern states murderers and screeching at the top of their lungs for opening partially, i personally read articles around that time how it's irresponsible to go to your friends house or visit your parents, then literally within a few day no one gives a fuck about millions of people across the US being on top of each other in the streets? Give me a break.
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Jun 9 2020 08:33pm
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people were being ticketed and fined $1k-5k regularly for where i live with politicans and medical professionals regularly sending out communications about the dangerous of public gatherings during the pandemic

same politicans two weeks later
https://i.imgur.com/dxQyJqM.png


Correct. Again, the ability to protest, which is a Constitutionally protected right here in the states, far exceeds and is altogether in a different category than wanting to merely hangout at the beach, get a haircut, or eat at a restaurant.

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Pointing out different standards and narratives is just that and not intended to stop protests. The reason i'm pointing it out is not to shut down the protesters but to explicitly expose these double standards. Two weeks ago people were calling the governors of southern states murderers and screeching at the top of their lungs for opening partially, i personally read articles around that time how it's irresponsible to go to your friends house or visit your parents, then literally within a few day no one gives a fuck about millions of people across the US being on top of each other in the streets? Give me a break.


I'm talking about people that excellence's article is referring to, which are the people wanting to use public health concerns to shutdown the protests.

In a way, there are different standards, because the circumstances are wildly different.

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Correct. Again, the ability to protest, which is a Constitutionally protected right here in the states, far exceeds and is altogether in a different category than wanting to merely hangout at the beach, get a haircut, or eat at a restaurant.



I'm talking about people that excellence's article is referring to, which are the people wanting to use public health concerns to shutdown the protests.

In a way, there are different standards, because the circumstances are wildly different.


how about going to work or have a job? the impact to peoples livelihood is the source of my irritation here and it looks like it was unnecessary if public health officials suddenly decide social justice is more important than public health matters
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Correct. Again, the ability to protest, which is a Constitutionally protected right here in the states, far exceeds and is altogether in a different category than wanting to merely hangout at the beach, get a haircut, or eat at a restaurant.



I'm talking about people that excellence's article is referring to, which are the people wanting to use public health concerns to shutdown the protests.

In a way, there are different standards, because the circumstances are wildly different.


I guess threatening the life and well being of vulnerable people is acceptable under some non urgent situations and it's unacceptable for others. Interesting.
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how about going to work or have a job? the impact to peoples livelihood is the source of my irritation here and it looks like it was unnecessary if public health officials suddenly decide social justice is more important than public health matters


Well, Canada has done much better than we have here in the States in terms of helping people navigate the financial struggles that Covid-19 has brought about, or ultimately, highlighted.

There's a way that we could respond to Covid-19 AND protect people from financial ruin during these times. The same can't really be said about protesting. Zoom calls and Change.org petitions can't really do much.
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Jun 9 2020 08:41pm
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I guess threatening the life and well being of vulnerable people is acceptable under some non urgent situations and it's unacceptable for others. Interesting.


That's because what you deem non-urgent is deemed urgent by others, and these protests also originate out of a desire to protect and save the lives of some of our most vulnerable members of society.
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That's because what you deem non-urgent is deemed urgent by others, and these protests also originate out of a desire to protect and save the lives of some of our most vulnerable members of society.


I guess some lives are more important than others. I really hope there isn't a spike in cases but if there is the democrat officials that encouraged and virtue-signaled for these protests, as well as many other public figures really think twice about criticizing Trump on him not shutting everything down fast enough.
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Jun 9 2020 09:13pm
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I guess some lives are more important than others. I really hope there isn't a spike in cases but if there is the democrat officials that encouraged and virtue-signaled for these protests, as well as many other public figures really think twice about criticizing Trump on him not shutting everything down fast enough.


How else should have people protested?
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