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Jun 1 2020 05:45am
Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 1 2020 01:29pm)
You do not arrest reporters in a first world country, which is why the governor tore those cops a new asshole and had him released immediately.


You're delusional. Reporters are not above the law and can be arrested like anyone else. You're from Au right? https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/nobody-is-above-the-law-journalists-committed-a-crime-says-peter-dutton-20190712-p526il.html

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'Nobody is above the law': Journalists committed a crime, says Peter Dutton


There you go son. And quite shocking material tbh

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Mr Dutton on Friday rejected demands from media chiefs to drop any action against the reporters.

"Nobody is above the law and the police have a job to do under the law," he told the Today program.

"I think it is up to the police to investigate, to do it independently and make a decision about whether or not they prosecute."




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You're delusional. Reporters are not above the law and can be arrested like anyone else. You're from Au right? https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/nobody-is-above-the-law-journalists-committed-a-crime-says-peter-dutton-20190712-p526il.html



There you go son


Peter dutton is the most hated man in my country, a corrupt police officer who became a corrupt senator who became a fascist.
All charges were dropped and the warrant was thrown out by the judge by the way.

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Peter dutton is the most hated man in my country, a corrupt police officer who became a corrupt senator who became a fascist.


Yeah Au is known for their fascist government. You're a worse case than I ever expected. Seek some counseling buddy.

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Yeah Au is known for their fascist government. You're a worse case than I ever expected. Seek some counseling buddy.

You need to calm down before you have a stroke.
Our current ruling party banned guns, censored the internet, banned lock on devices in protests, and thats the tip of the iceberg.
We literally made prison camps for boat refugees and made it a crime for a doctor or a reporter to report anything they see happen there with prison sentences for anyone who did it.
The Australian Parliament has also made it a crime for charities to expose human rights violations, and to communicate with the United Nations about those violations.

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The first post wrongly implies that police brutality and fatal police shootings are the same.

There are plenty of instances of police brutality are not fatal shootings. There are plenty of fatal shooting that are not police brutality.

Before the conversation begins, people should at least be on the same page on whether they are talking about fatal shootings or police brutality.
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The first post wrongly implies that police brutality and fatal police shootings are the same.

There are plenty of instances of police brutality are not fatal shootings. There are plenty of fatal shooting that are not police brutality.

Before the conversation begins, people should at least be on the same page on whether they are talking about fatal shootings or police brutality.


I covered that lol
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Quote (Plaguefear @ Jun 1 2020 04:40am)
Motor cycle accident fleeing.
Car accident while fleeing.
Electrocution while fleeing.
Veil ban.
Another car accident fleeing.

Are you sure it is me who needs glasses?
You need to calm down a little, no need for name calling.
Last person to call me a "turd" was 10 years old.


Okay? So "police brutality France" instead:



/e they show a scene eerily similar to that of George Floyd, by the way.

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This topic is to talk about : what have been done and should be done, technically, to stop this mess in US.
No one want sacks of shit to spam isolated events from France where police violence is vastly lower.

It's about laws, legislation, or other measures, what have been done in last... Let's say 20 years... to fight police brutality ?



This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Jun 1 2020 06:14am
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Okay? So "police brutality France" instead:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZvVqEEY16M

/e they show a scene eerily similar to that of George Floyd, by the way.


I had no doubt it happened, i was just questioning how he could manage 5 links with none in it.
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Qualified immunity is a legal doctrine that protects government officials from lawsuits seeking money damages. The doctrine applies when officers are exercising discretion in their official capacity. The defense of qualified immunity, when invoked successfully, leads to dismissal of civil claims.

The doctrine of qualified immunity protects different classes of government officials, state officials, and public officials. Some of these include:

State governors,1
School officials,2
Prison officials,3 and
Police officers.4
Under this doctrine, police officers can act without fear of being sued. It can protect them as long as their conduct does not:

violate the victim's constitutional rights, which
were so clearly established that a reasonable person would have known them.5
When government officials successfully raise this doctrine in a lawsuit, the court will generally dismiss the case.6

Qualified immunity only applies to lawsuits that seek monetary damages in federal courts. If the lawsuit only demands a change in policy, this doctrine cannot be invoked.


Overcoming qualified immunity is critical in a police misconduct lawsuit. Claiming this doctrine is one of the first things that police officers do when they are sued. If they convince the judge that they are immune from the lawsuit, the judge will likely dismiss the case. The victims will recover nothing for their losses if this happens.

Police officers accused of misconduct have the burden of proving they are immune from a lawsuit. Victims can argue that immunity does not apply. To do this, one would have to show two prongs:

their constitutional rights were violated, and
those rights were so clearly established that a reasonable official would have known he/she committed the constitutional violation.
Only by overcoming the qualified immunity defense can a victim recover money damages.

A trial court's / district court's decision about qualified immunity cases can be appealed right away. The case does not have to go to the end before it can be contested to an appeals court. Police officers can appeal lower courts' decisions even if they prevailed on one of the steps.
https://www.shouselaw.com/ca/civil-rights/qualified-immunity

Pretty much a police officer must clearly be shown or proven to have violated your constitution rights, or claim extreme ignorance while hiding behind the qualified immunity doctrine.
Moral of the story if you find yourself in a position of having to interact with the police pull out your nifty cellphone and record it.
If you find yourself walking down your favorite street market or neighborhood and you see someone interacting with the police, pull out your nifty cellphone and record it.
Buy home security systems that actually work and keep up to date on storage. That way if cops are at your house for any reason its all caught on camera. It is for the "bad" guys and the "good" guys.

Not until a people as a whole hold them accountable and let them know we are all watching will they ever truly stay in line. It is not a crime in the USA to film a police officer. For safety you should stay about 6 feet away from any and all investigations. There is no Supreme Court ruling on how far one must be while recording the police. There is a Supreme Court ruling that you can record anywhere in public that the eye can see (this includes police while acting in their official capacity).
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