Quote (Thor123422 @ Jun 1 2020 07:53am)

I'm not arguing for anything. If this is justified or not will depend on your own experience and judgement. I'm just giving you one side of the argument. I think rioting is shitty, and I feel bad for people who get caught up in it, but the riots aren't just coming out of nowhere. They're not just some random happenstance.



I'm not saying everything is a targeted (tee hee) attack. However, when people all over the country see there is a risk of violence when this kind of thing isn't handled (as it hasn't been the past several years) then their choice is basically "our whole city turning into what the ghettos have been turned into" or "hold them accountable". And when businesses see that's the dichotomy they'll be more inclined to pressure their local governments. I.e. I'm gonna move and take my business investment with me if this kind of thing keeps happening.

Quote (Thor123422 @ May 31 2020 04:59pm)

There isn't a lack of logic lol. I presented the logic to you.

IMO it's effectively taking the damage done to these communities and making it happen elsewhere, effectively incentivizing the end of the system by spreading the damage to groups that are more powerful and can therefore have more influence, but would otherwise be complicit.

Quote (Thor123422 @ May 31 2020 05:59pm)

There isn't a lack of logic lol. I presented the logic to you.

IMO it's effectively taking the damage done to these communities and making it happen elsewhere, effectively incentivizing the end of the system by spreading the damage to groups that are more powerful and can therefore have more influence, but would otherwise be complicit.

I don't agree with it, but I'm a white boy living in a conservative state who's only ever been discriminated against once at a job I was at for 2 months. (Female manager was a dick to all the guys and protected all the girls. She was a shitty manager anyway). So my perspective isn't exactly valuable.

Quote (Thor123422 @ May 31 2020 05:59pm)

There isn't a lack of logic lol. I presented the logic to you.

IMO it's effectively taking the damage done to these communities and making it happen elsewhere, effectively incentivizing the end of the system by spreading the damage to groups that are more powerful and can therefore have more influence, but would otherwise be complicit.

Quote (TritonV8 @ May 31 2020 05:01pm)

Feelings don't equate to logic. There hasn't been a single valid explanation on how doing this to uninvolved private parties is related to a police officer in a completely different state. Any attempts to correlate the two and just sweeping generalizations shoe-horned into their emotional responses.

Quote (duffman316 @ May 31 2020 05:06pm)

this logic also happens to be the plot/backstory behind a certain naruto villain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An1ZrG0mbf4

Quote (Ghot @ May 31 2020 05:03pm)

That's not "logic" Well, it's 3rd world logic.
Logic would say... start a go fund me, collect zillions, and use that money to get the politician you want... elected.
By the logic you're using, I could start killing people and reason that I was doing good, because now their families would vote... properly.

Quote (Thor123422 @ May 31 2020 05:06pm)

Sounds more like you are using an emotional argument to dismiss the logic I presented, in that you didn't actually make an argument but just an assertion.

Quote (TritonV8 @ May 31 2020 05:08pm)

What was this supposed logic that validates it? I'm genuinely curious as to what I missed. I'm always open to changing my views if the facts warrant it.

Quote (Thor123422 @ May 31 2020 05:38pm)

Yes, I couldn't have been talking about the police there... who are public servants.

Holding the police accountable is hardly totalitarian or fascist.

Also, businesses and individuals in the area aren't totally innocent. They are complicit in not holding the police accountable. Until now the damage from not holding the police accountable has largely fallen on the communities that are now rioting. These riots are basically a way to say "you guys can totally keep being complicit, but we aren't going to be the only ones damaged anymore. If you want to stop feeling the same damage our community has, then you need to hold them accountable".

Quote (Plaguefear @ May 31 2020 05:21pm)

There was video taken yesterday of 3 police holding a small woman down with one on her neck, so they are not learning much.
What police academy teaches knee to neck?