Ahh, a fellow man of culture

LOL



Providing parents the "freedom" to mutilate their children is not supporting freedom. It's supporting harm.

Ideas have been floated for ages that a proper response to rape may be the castration of the rapist. It's been shot down every time as cruel and inhumane. On the flipside, it's perfectly okay for parents to castrate their children?

You'll have to explain to me how the bill is bad or wrong. If the boy who wants to be a girl opts to castrate themselves once they turn 18? Good on them. That's THEIR choice. Not their parent's choice. They'll have had all the hormone treatments, and plenty of time to consider it. If the girl who wants to be a boy opts to castrate themselves (removal of ovaries and other such are involved in female-to-male) at 18, also good on them. It's their own personal choice, once they've reached the age of affirmative consent.

I guess as long as they don't block the hormone treatments.

The earlier you transition the more attractive you are, and being attractive is probably the most important trait you can have as an American and probably Englishperson too.

This post was edited by Skinned on May 20 2020 12:14pm

I guess you just hate freedom, and are too much of a simpleton to understand that freedom is the greatest good and government the greatest evil.

Bill has nothing to do with hormone treatments. It's all about making the choice based on affirmative consent, and taking politics and parental pressure out of the equation entirely for the actual irreversible aspects of the transition.

I don't really have any comment on the attractiveness thing. Seems a pretty shallow view, but who knows.

Appearance is a lot to self esteem and how you're treated. America is also a shallow place. We hide our uggos and our elderly.

People I've met tend to be either happy about it or they won't talk about it. One patient i had was seriously traumatized by the surgery itself but it couldn't be brought up because it would be second guessing that decision, and that decision being right was very important for internal consistency...there was just no challenging it....
It was a priori.

I didn't circumsize my son because i didn't want to do anything to his body without his consent and he was fine the way he came to me. He can do that when he is 18 next year if he wants. Definitely not turning an inny into an outy or vice versa, or even breast implants.

The goal should first and foremost attempt to be comfortable in one's own skin. Body issues are a lot more common than we talk about IMO.

"all women are beautiful" said the 1m sub supermodel who lives in a bikini and wear's a mask of /4" thk. makeup, to thunderous applause.

Interesting take. I don't know about "hiding" the elderly and ugly. Been to a Walmart lately? I mean, there's ugly people everywhere.

When you're talking the elderly who can no longer care for themselves, I don't know if "hiding" is the appropriate word. I mean, I see where you're coming from, but I'd point out that if a person requires around-the-clock care, and their children/grandchildren/etc. are working and simply don't have the time, care homes and such that're designed for that are often the best place for them. Leaving off for the moment the fact that many of those facilities have no standard and should be shut down, the "good ones" are great places to be, and often afford the elderly a chance to be around peers who they may otherwise never get to see if they were still at home.

I salute your decision regarding your son, and completely agree with "being comfortable in your own skin". I think some of the thought that you must "be attractive" is simply wrong. Like, if a person (through no medical excuse) allows themselves to become morbidly obese, or if they're dirty and unkempt, these are easily resolvable issues. Work out, be active, get off your ass and DO something. Bathe, shave, cut or style your hair. DO something to maintain your health and basic appearance. "Hot or Not" typically boils down to healthy or not.



Yeah, that shit's annoying as hell.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on May 20 2020 02:27pm

I would like to see the US follow suit.

vouch.

when someone says "all women are beautiful", I must always think of this bombshell:




I mean... I want everyone to be happy and feel comfortable in his or her body, even those who arent genetically blessed. But still... YIKES!