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#31
Apr 20 2020 10:43pm
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That is the question that no one wants to answer that needs to be answered. For me personally? A lot higher than it is now. Precautions and proactive measures can be taken to get people back to work safely. You have to fight back at some point.

The economic repercussions from this are enormous, both with lives lost due to unconsidered repercussions and the financial component, and I would not be surprised to see photo's that look like they are straight out of the great depression here in the short term. If anyone thinks the markets are volatile now, just wait. Businesses hate uncertainty. That's what prevents hiring. The government literally cannot continue to bailout the economy. It's not feasible to continue.

Good to see an old ESCNL player, hope you and your family are all safe and healthy.


So you get people back to work, the virus comes back strong and everyone ends up at home sick, how does that help the economy?
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Apr 20 2020 10:47pm
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So you get people back to work, the virus comes back strong and everyone ends up at home sick, how does that help the economy?


At home sick if your lucky, fuck the curve and the 40% of people hospitalized now under age 55 start to die as well, 20% being between (20-40).
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Apr 20 2020 10:52pm
interesting discussion, don't have much to add but this: the risk of a resurgence of infection rates is much higher when people are prematurely breaking self-isolation. is a shorter shock to the economy with people self isolating worse than a prolonged recession with a longer overall life and larger infection rate of the virus?

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So you get people back to work, the virus comes back strong and everyone ends up at home sick, how does that help the economy?


oh man i swear i didn't see this before i typed out my post

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Apr 20 2020 10:55pm
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So you get people back to work, the virus comes back strong and everyone ends up at home sick, how does that help the economy?


You make the automatic assumption that the "virus comes back strong and everyone ends up at home sick" with precautionary and proactive measures taken while returning to work.

This is why there is no debate over this - everyone retreats to their political corners. What is worse - Covid-19 related deaths or death from the economic implications? Is one worse than the other, or are they equally important?

I would appreciate your opinion.
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Apr 20 2020 10:59pm
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You make the automatic assumption that the "virus comes back strong and everyone ends up at home sick" with precautionary and proactive measures taken while returning to work.

This is why there is no debate over this - everyone retreats to their political corners. What is worse - Covid-19 related deaths or death from the economic implications? Is one worse than the other, or are they equally important?

I would appreciate your opinion.


WHAT PRECAUTIONS WILL GET EVERYONE BACK TO WORK SAFE??
Have you read ANY of the information on this virus?

The reason we are isolating in the first place is that the SCIENTISTS and DOCTORS who have DECADES OF EXPERIENCE are saying this is the best course.

But if that guy on the ineternet says its ok we should all risk our lives and economy?

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Apr 20 2020 11:01pm
Quote (JLAudio @ Apr 21 2020 12:55am)
You make the automatic assumption that the "virus comes back strong and everyone ends up at home sick" with precautionary and proactive measures taken while returning to work.

This is why there is no debate over this - everyone retreats to their political corners. What is worse - Covid-19 related deaths or death from the economic implications? Is one worse than the other, or are they equally important?

I would appreciate your opinion.


what political corners are you talking about? not trying to attack you, but all he seems to be referencing is the infectiousness of COVID.

also, given how infectious it's proven to be, I can't think of any precautionary and proactive measures that would limit the spread in an workplace short of everyone wearing biohazard suits
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Apr 20 2020 11:03pm
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WHAT PRECAUTIONS WILL GET EVERYONE BACK TO WORK SAFE??
Have you read ANY of the information on this virus?


What is worse - Covid-19 related deaths or death from the economic implications? Is one worse than the other, or are they equally important?

If you can answer that question you have a baseline for a solution.
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#38
Apr 20 2020 11:04pm
We are also not isolating because of covid deaths alone, we are isolating because if the hospitals are full of moderate covid patients there is no room for people who take a bad fall or shoot themselves in the foot showing off gun safety.
Yes including those "economic casualties" they will also need treatment.
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Apr 20 2020 11:05pm
Quote (JLAudio @ Apr 21 2020 01:03am)
What is worse - Covid-19 related deaths or death from the economic implications? Is one worse than the other, or are they equally important?

If you can answer that question you have a baseline for a solution.


i would haphazard to guess that there are a great deal more of potential deaths from the virus than potential deaths caused by an economic recession, so if you are looking for an empirical answer I would go with the former. just my opinion

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Apr 20 2020 11:07pm
Quote (JLAudio @ Apr 20 2020 09:55pm)
You make the automatic assumption that the "virus comes back strong and everyone ends up at home sick" with precautionary and proactive measures taken while returning to work.

This is why there is no debate over this - everyone retreats to their political corners. What is worse - Covid-19 related deaths or death from the economic implications? Is one worse than the other, or are they equally important?

I would appreciate your opinion.


Right. Death is death. But if a person dies and you don’t hear about it, did they die?

People would rather take to the side of hiding from the virus, to avoid deaths from covid because it’s another statistic that is made known.

Out of sight, out of mind. If someone dies or their life is ruined from poverty, nobody hears about that story.

People always want to pretend like they’re all caring when in reality they just want to stay oblivious and safe in their own little bubble.

Willing to guarantee most people who want the quarantine to continue are still able to work their job and or work from home whereas most of the people who want to go back to work are the people that have no other choice.
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