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This is a great question
Answer we still have hungry wolves running things and they will try to keep it that way for as long as they can
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here in the USA there is nothing more permanent than a temporary government policy.
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here in the USA there is nothing more permanent than a temporary government policy.


Here in Germany, we're still paying the champagne tax that was introduced in 1902 to finance the construction of the imperial war fleet for Wilhelm II, German emperor and King of Prussia. (He's the grand-grand-grandfather of Heinrich/derpy...)

Today, there is no more monarch, no more war fleet, the territory of former Prussia mostly belongs to Poland and Russia, the country has gone through two hyperinflations followed by currency reform - but we're still paying this damn tax.

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Here in Germany, we're still paying the champagne tax that was introduced in 1902 to finance the construction of the imperial war fleet for Wilhelm II, German emperor and King of Prussia. (He's the grand-grand-grandfather of Heinrich/derpy...)

Today, there is no more monarch, no more war fleet, the territory of former Prussia mostly belongs to Poland and Russia, the country has gone through two hyperinflations followed by currency reform - but we're still paying this damn tax.


One of the things in very sad about is that in high school I learned a lot about America from 1900 to 1945, a little about America from 1700 to 1900, and virtually nothing about the rest of the world. Some of the most consequential things for the modern world happened in Europe from 1800 to WW1, but American kids are taught virtually none of it.
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One of the things in very sad about is that in high school I learned a lot about America from 1900 to 1945, a little about America from 1700 to 1900, and virtually nothing about the rest of the world. Some of the most consequential things for the modern world happened in Europe from 1800 to WW1, but American kids are taught virtually none of it.


Afaik, schoolkids in Europe dont get taught a lot about American history either. We were taught about Christopher Columbus, the Declaration and the War of Independence, a short primer on the Civil War, followed by a big gap until the U.S. involvement in the I. World War. Then another long gap until WWII. :rolleyes:

So essentially, the only thing we're taught about US history between 1776 and 1917 is a short summary of the Civil War. (To be fair: I would guess that a lot of the less educated Americans dont know much about their own country's history over this timeframe either, aside from the Civil War...)
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Afaik, schoolkids in Europe dont get taught a lot about American history either. We were taught about Christopher Columbus, the Declaration and the War of Independence, a short primer on the Civil War, followed by a big gap until the U.S. involvement in the I. World War. Then another long gap until WWII. :rolleyes:

So essentially, the only thing we're taught about US history between 1776 and 1917 is a short summary of the Civil War. (To be fair: I would guess that a lot of the less educated Americans dont know much about their own country's history over this timeframe either, aside from the Civil War...)


This isn't dissimilar to the US itself. Spanish American war and many other happenings pre civil war are all only briefly covered. American history classes have long been dominated by a war-centric perspective. not surprising for a country who's been in as many wars as we have in such a short existence. but it's still sad to see topics like new-statehood, the gold rush, and the slow creation of our legal code only get a brief lesson. The gold rush and western expansion generally have always fascinated me.
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Afaik, schoolkids in Europe dont get taught a lot about American history either. We were taught about Christopher Columbus, the Declaration and the War of Independence, a short primer on the Civil War, followed by a big gap until the U.S. involvement in the I. World War. Then another long gap until WWII. :rolleyes:

So essentially, the only thing we're taught about US history between 1776 and 1917 is a short summary of the Civil War. (To be fair: I would guess that a lot of the less educated Americans dont know much about their own country's history over this timeframe either, aside from the Civil War...)


i don't know where, when, and which kind of school you went to, and how accurately you remember what you were taught, but we also learned about the thirteen colonies, conflicts between the brits, the french, and the spaniards, about the slaughter of native americans, and manifest destiny...
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i don't know where, when, and which kind of school you went to, and how accurately you remember what you were taught, but we also learned about the thirteen colonies, conflicts between the brits, the french, and the spaniards, about the slaughter of native americans, and manifest destiny...


Columbus, the thirteen colonies, the war of independence/tensions with the brits were all one block. The slaughter of native americans was briefly covered with the example of the trail of tears, but only as a small excursion from the larger topic of slavery and how it lead to the civil war. But again: those topics were all covered really quick. We spent about two or at most three class hours to go from the end of the war of independence to ww1.

Manifest destiny once came up as a tangent during religion/ethics classes, but not in our history classes.

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Afaik, schoolkids in Europe dont get taught a lot about American history either. We were taught about Christopher Columbus, the Declaration and the War of Independence, a short primer on the Civil War, followed by a big gap until the U.S. involvement in the I. World War. Then another long gap until WWII. :rolleyes:

So essentially, the only thing we're taught about US history between 1776 and 1917 is a short summary of the Civil War. (To be fair: I would guess that a lot of the less educated Americans dont know much about their own country's history over this timeframe either, aside from the Civil War...)




Here ya go.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett

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David Crockett (August 17, 1786 – March 6, 1836) was an American folk hero, frontiersman, soldier, and politician. He is commonly referred to in popular culture by the epithet "King of the Wild Frontier". He represented Tennessee in the U.S. House of Representatives and served in the Texas Revolution.

Crockett grew up in East Tennessee, where he gained a reputation for hunting and storytelling. He was made a colonel in the militia of Lawrence County, Tennessee and was elected to the Tennessee state legislature in 1821. In 1827, he was elected to the U.S. Congress where he vehemently opposed many of the policies of President Andrew Jackson, especially the Indian Removal Act. Crockett's opposition to Jackson's policies led to his defeat in the 1831 elections. He was re-elected in 1833, then narrowly lost in 1835, prompting his angry departure to Texas (then the Mexican state of Tejas) shortly thereafter. In early 1836, he took part in the Texas Revolution and was "likely" executed at the Battle of the Alamo after being captured by (and possibly surrendering to) the Mexican Army.







The Ballad of Davy Crockett
Written by Tom Blackburn and George Burns


Born on a mountain top in Tennessee
Greenest state in the Land of the Free
Raised in the woods so's he knew every tree
Kilt him a b'ar when he was only three
Davy, Davy Crockett, King of the Wild Frontier!

In 1813, the Creeks uprose
Addin' Redskin arrows to the country's woes
Now, Injun fighting is something he knows
So he shoulders his rifle and off he goes

Davy, Davy Crockett, the man who don't know fear!

Off through the woods, he's a marchin' along
Making up yarns and singing a song
Itching for fighting and righting a wrong
He's ringy as a b'ar and twice as strong

Davy, Davy Crockett, The buckskin buccaneer!

Andy Jackson is our general's name
His regular soldiers we'll put to shame
Them Redskin varmint us volunteers'll tame
Cause we got the guns with the sure-fire aim

Davy, Davy Crockett, the champion of us all!

Headed back to war from the old home place
But Red Stick was leading a merry chase
Fightin' and a burnin' at a devil's pace,
South to the swamps on the Florida Trace

Davy, Davy Crockett, trackin' the Redskins down!

Fought single handed through the Injun War
Till the Creeks was whipped and peace was in store
And while he was handling this risky chore
Made himself a legend for evermore

Davy, Davy Crockett, King of the Wild Frontier!

He gave his word and he gave his hand
That his Injun friends could keep their land
And the rest of his life he took the stand
That justice was due every Redskin band

Davy, Davy Crockett, holding his promise dear!

Home for the winter with his family
Happy as squirrels in the old gum tree
Being the father he wanted to be
Close to his boys as the pod and the pea

Davy, Davy Crockett, holding his yougins dear!

But the ice went out and the warm winds came
And the melting snow showed tracks of game
And the flowers of Spring filled the woods with flame
And all of a sudden life got too tame

Davy, Davy Crockett, heading on West again!

Off through the woods we're riding along
Making up yarns and singing a song
He's ringy as a b'ar and twice as strong
And he knows he's right cause he ain't often wrong

Davy, Davy Crockett, the man who don't know fear!

Looking for a place where the air smells clean
Where the trees is tall and the grass is green
Where the fish is fat in an untouched stream
And the teeming woods is a hunters dream

Davy, Davy Crockett, looking for Paradise!

Now he'd lost his love and his grief was gall
In his heart he wanted to leave it all
And lose himself in the forest tall
But he answered instead his country's call

Davy, Davy Crockett, beginning his campaign!

Needin' his help they didn't vote blind
They put in Davy cause he was their kind
Sent up to Nashville the best they could find
A fighting spirit and a thinking mind

Davy, Davy Crockett, the man who don't know fear!

The votes were counted and he won hands down
So they sent him off to Washington town
With his best dress suit still his buckskins brown
A living legend of growing renown.

Davy, Davy Crockett, The Canebrake Congressman!

He went off to congress and served a spell
Fixing up the government and the laws as well
Took over Washington so we heered tell
And patched up the crack in the Liberty Bell

Davy, Davy Crockett, seeing his duty clear!

Him and his jokes traveled all through the land
And his speeches made him friends the beat the band
His politickin was their favorite brand
and everyone wanted to shake his hand.

Davy, Davy Crockett, helping his legend grow!

He knew when he spoke he sounded the knell
Of his hopes for White House and fame as well
But he spoke out strong so history books tell
And patched up the crack in the Liberty Bell

Davy, Davy Crockett, seeing his duty clear!

When he come home his politickin' done
The western march had just begun
So he packed his gear and his trusty gun
And lit out grinning to follow the sun

Davy, Davy Crockett, leading the pioneer!

He heard of Houston and Austin and so
To the Texas plains he just had to go
Where freedom was fighting another foe
And the needed him at the Alamo

Davy, Davy Crockett, the man who don't know fear!

His land is biggest and his land is best
From grassy plains to the mountain crest
He's ahead of us all meeting the test
Following his legend into the West

Davy, Davy Crockett, King of the Wild Frontier!

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