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Mar 13 2020 03:54pm
Quote (MxVivianWulf @ Mar 13 2020 01:51pm)
Might wanna look into how these 'loans'; are to be paid pack before you spout too much shit.


They're paid back by paying them back the next, week or month as the repo loans are set with firm short-term dates, mostly overnighters. If they're not paid back, they seize the high quality collateral assets like treasuries / mortgage-backed securities that the banks put down. That doesn't translate whatsoever into paying off / forgiving debt, which is a straight expenditure. Likewise, when Trump announced today that he's waiving interest for federally held student loans during the Coronavirus crisis, that's a net expenditure by the feds- but only the interest, so nowhere even close to the value of the loans, especially since student loans are already low interest
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Mar 13 2020 04:28pm
The federal spending is going to be a hot mess this year.

The 1.5 Tril spending is probably the best option we have, but the consequences of it wont be pleasant. It could really undo the gains of the past three years. And if the bottom drops out there will be less QE left to save us.
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Mar 13 2020 05:27pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Mar 13 2020 06:28pm)
The federal spending is going to be a hot mess this year.

The 1.5 Tril spending is probably the best option we have, but the consequences of it wont be pleasant. It could really undo the gains of the past three years. And if the bottom drops out there will be less QE left to save us.



Eh, they can also print more money. Problem is anyone that’s a saver or has saved, rich or poor, is going to see their dollar savings eroded. At the rate we’re going stagflation is on the horizon.
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Mar 13 2020 08:52pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 13 2020 04:54pm)
They're paid back by paying them back the next, week or month as the repo loans are set with firm short-term dates, mostly overnighters. If they're not paid back, they seize the high quality collateral assets like treasuries / mortgage-backed securities that the banks put down. That doesn't translate whatsoever into paying off / forgiving debt, which is a straight expenditure. Likewise, when Trump announced today that he's waiving interest for federally held student loans during the Coronavirus crisis, that's a net expenditure by the feds- but only the interest, so nowhere even close to the value of the loans, especially since student loans are already low interest


they should buy out my student loan debt and then they can seize the diploma I don't use.
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Mar 13 2020 09:00pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Mar 13 2020 03:28pm)
The federal spending is going to be a hot mess this year.

The 1.5 Tril spending is probably the best option we have, but the consequences of it wont be pleasant. It could really undo the gains of the past three years. And if the bottom drops out there will be less QE left to save us.



i though the free market was supposed to be so efficient at allocating these things by itself and this is literally communism?
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Mar 13 2020 09:04pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ Mar 13 2020 11:00pm)
i though the free market was supposed to be so efficient at allocating these things by itself and this is literally communism?


Free market is about resembling a voluntary transaction as best as possible. The moral hazards of a pandemic are so large that almost any amount spent would resemble a voluntary transaction here.
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Mar 13 2020 09:05pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Mar 13 2020 10:04pm)
Free market is about resembling a voluntary transaction as best as possible. The moral hazards of a pandemic are so large that almost any amount spent would resemble a voluntary transaction here.


God you're good at making word salad
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God you're good at making word salad


:wacko:
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Mar 13 2020 09:34pm
would keep like 2-3mil and send the rest back tbh
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Mar 13 2020 09:52pm
itt a lot of people who think a loan and a gift are the same thing lol. wtf read a book lads.
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