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Dec 11 2019 03:44pm
This "muh property muh guns" meme level thinking is a bit pathetic, this is 19th century deprecated shit which has so many flaws today.
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Dec 11 2019 03:45pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 11 2019 03:34pm)
Absent of property all parties have a right to use any resource. Once you claim something as your property I lose that right. Therefore your having property infringes on my right to use an object I would otherwise have a right to.

The rights of one infringe on the rights of others. Its most obvious in the case where a king owns all the land, but the issues don't totally go away on distribution.


devoid of property rights you'd be free to try and take anything from someone else. so in your case there's no change.
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Dec 11 2019 03:46pm
Quote (Phaggot @ Dec 11 2019 03:27pm)
Incorrect.

A person that has these rights must identify themselves. children argue semantics, building the strawman, It isnt' about an address, or a picture, it is about the existing processes in which we as Humans identify each other.

A person has to identify themselves as that person, or else then every single person on the planet would be able to go into an american gun store and willy nilly buy guns to be used for things other than hunting ducks.

If only Americans have the right, then how can someone discern that the patron is an American???!?!?!? IDENTIFICATION.

I am a moron, yet you cannot grasp the excruciatingly simple concept of why I need to show that I am an American to buy a gun. :thinking:


It's not children that argue semantics, it's lawyers. Because words mean things. If this were about IDENTIFYING the people buying ammunition, one would have to simply present their identification, like we do in every other state that isn't retarded like California. In California, it isn't about IDENTIFYING people buying ammunition, because if it was, then presenting your ID would suffice. This is about creating barriers to the exercise of people's rights, in the name of "safety."

No matter how many times you mention the word gun, it is clearly lost on you that this is about ammunition, without which, a gun is a club.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 11 2019 03:45pm)
devoid of property rights you'd be free to try and take anything from someone else. so in your case there's no change.


What?
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Dec 11 2019 03:53pm
Quote (Thor123422 @ Dec 11 2019 03:52pm)
What?


im saying you couldn't pull the blanket off me while im sleeping boy. you weak. come catch these hands son.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Dec 11 2019 03:53pm)
im saying you couldn't pull the blanket off me while im sleeping boy. you weak. come catch these hands son.


lol
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Dec 12 2019 04:36pm
Continuing the escalating war of the gun control agenda of liberlols, Virginia governor Ralph Northam indicated a couple days ago that he is amenable to watering down his confiscation agenda in response to substantial push back from more than 50 counties stating they wouldn't enforce unconstitutional laws from the state: https://bearingarms.com/came/2019/12/10/northam-tweaks-gun-ban-response-2a-sanctuary-movement/

Fast forward two days, and Virginia Democrats are threatening military action by the state National Guard to enforce their proposed laws (ironic, given how much they love sanctuary positions regarding illegal aliens): https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/the-law-is-the-law-virginia-democrats-float-prosecution-national-guard-deployment-if-police-dont-enforce-gun-control

So Democrats literally are threatening American citizens with military action to take away their rights, but continually insist that the need for the second amendment is outdated.

This post was edited by Santara on Dec 12 2019 04:39pm
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Continuing the escalating war of the gun control agenda of liberlols, Virginia governor Ralph Northam indicated a couple days ago that he is amenable to watering down his confiscation agenda in response to substantial push back from more than 50 counties stating they wouldn't enforce unconstitutional laws from the state: https://bearingarms.com/came/2019/12/10/northam-tweaks-gun-ban-response-2a-sanctuary-movement/

Fast forward two days, and Virginia Democrats are threatening military action by the state National Guard to enforce their proposed laws (ironic, given how much they love sanctuary positions regarding illegal aliens): https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/the-law-is-the-law-virginia-democrats-float-prosecution-national-guard-deployment-if-police-dont-enforce-gun-control

So Democrats literally are threatening American citizens with military action to take away their rights, but continually insist that the need for the second amendment is outdated.


when you're done clutching your pearls over this, here's what an ACTUAL THREAT to american citizens looks like:



This post was edited by fender on Dec 12 2019 05:04pm
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Quote (fender @ Dec 12 2019 05:00pm)
when you're done clutching your pearls over this, here's what an ACTUAL THREAT to american citizens looks like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sWvgn6PTrE


Lol, what a nothingburger! Meanwhile, there really are people that won't surrender firearms without a gunfight.
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