Quote (fender @ 2 Dec 2019 03:25)
How exactly did we fall for anything? Nothing in the Guardian article you linked refutes the basic claims that Goom made, and several sections from it provide further evidence in support of his perspective.
- the victim's own father stressed on twitter how his son LOVES diversity and people like his son are the antithesis to what he calls "racists".
- the guy's dissertation was titled "a critical analysis of the overrepresentation of minorities in british prisons".
- in the guardian article you linked, there is this passage:
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In a statement, his family reiterated their call for his murder to not be exploited for political gain.
They said: “We know Jack would not want this terrible, isolated incident to be used as a pretext by the government for introducing even more draconian sentences on prisoners, or for detaining people in prison for longer than necessary.”
1.: they call an islamistic terror attack, committed by a jihadist who had been caught plotting a bombing before, in a place where another islamistic terror attack had occurred just 2 years prior, an "isolated incident".
2.: their son was killed by a guy who was a convicted terrorist, was sentenced to 16 years in prison and had been released after just 7 of those 16 years - and they still keep talking about "... shall not be used as a pretext for introducing
even more draconian sentences". What the actual fuck?!
3.: they and everyone they knew said about Jack that he was always on the side of the underdog, which in these contexts clearly translates to "on the side of muslims and minorities".
4.: the family say that their dead son would have held these exact same views.
Taken together, Goom's characterization of this guy's beliefs is confirmed. And taken together, the guy and his whole family come across as exactly the type of gullible Westerners whose naivity and refusal to look at islam and multiculturalism critically enables the scourge of islamism and jihadism to grow and fester in our societies.
I am surely not "salivating" here. I wish this attack hadnt happened and no people were harmed. But if a deadly islamistic terror attack does occur, I prefer the victims to come from those segments of society which deny that islamism and terrorism are a problem.
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you know that the killer was born and raised in britain, right?
How does that change anything? My opinion, and I would assume that others like Goomshill or ofthevoid have a similar view, is that muslim immigration into Western countries should not happen unchecked, that it should only happen in small quantities and after tight vetting, and that all muslims living in Western countries should be forced to either integrate/assimilate into our societies or face deportation.
Simply put, this terrorist was only in the UK because the UK government had in the past opened the floodgates for unchecked immigration from places like Pakistan. It was only possible because they had engaged in the exact type of immigration practices that "we" "right-wing populists" criticize.
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From the guardian article fender linked:
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[Jeremy Corbyn] said on Sunday that convicted terrorists should “not necessarily” serve their full sentence, calling instead for a wider focus on issues such as rehabilitation and deradicalisation
In a later speech, Corbyn condemned cuts to areas such as probation and mental health or youth services, saying this was likely to create “missed chances to intervene in the lives of people who go on to commit inexcusable acts”.
Blaming the Iraq war and other UK foreign policy decisions for fuelling terrorism, Corbyn said: “Real security doesn’t only come from strong laws and intelligence, it comes also from effective public services that have the funding they need.”
"terrorists should not necessarily serve their full sentence"
"deradicalization instead of locking them away for as long as possible, potentially the rest of their lives"
"our own policies are to blame for fueling terrorism"
And earlier in the article, the like-minded family of Jake Merrit talked about an "isolated incident" (whose wikipedia entry has to be filed under "London_Bridge_Attack(2019)" because there's already "London_Bridge_attack(2017)"
).
Together, we have a full-blown best-of of the leftist excuses for islamistic terrorism.
This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Dec 2 2019 12:40am