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Nov 5 2019 12:38am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 4 2019 10:26pm)
I really dont think that Sasse, who's running for reelection in 2020 in deep-red Nebraska, would vote against Trump, unless he doesnt intend on running for reelection anyway.

Murkowski... I dont think that she could survive voting for impeachment. Ok, Alaska is not a suuuper 'trumpy' state, but still clearly conservative. She already had a political near-death experience in 2010 when she got primaried by a more conservative guy and only barely won the general election as a write-in candidate.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_United_States_Senate_election_in_Alaska

Basically, Murkowski being perceived as insufficiently conservative by the Alaska GOP base has gotten her into huge electoral trouble before, I doubt that she could survive a vote to remove Trump from office. Note that the Republican healthcare bill/Obamacare repeal attempt in 2017 would objectively have fucked Alaska over and thus was quite unpopular there, so her voting against it was something totally different.


He didn't support Trump back in 2016. I think he was one of the first "never Trump" elected officials. But yea, it's one of those things where we have to wait and see. If polling is somewhat similar by mid December, I think that we're pretty likely to have a majority of the Senate vote to acquit.
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Nov 5 2019 12:57am
Quote (thundercock @ 5 Nov 2019 07:38)
He didn't support Trump back in 2016. I think he was one of the first "never Trump" elected officials. But yea, it's one of those things where we have to wait and see. If polling is somewhat similar by mid December, I think that we're pretty likely to have a majority of the Senate vote to acquit.


Agreed. Imho, a lot will depend on whether or not the Democrats can reveal further "bombshells" to really sway the public.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Nov 4 2019 10:05pm)
lmk how impeachment is polling in swing states

This has zero chance of getting 2/3 needed to impeach

Two democrats in primarily R districts voted against impeachment and when this get closer to 2020 even more will get cold feet if people stay skeptical. If not it's political suicide.

If you are a betting man,you should put the house, wife and kids that Trump is Potus come election time.


People were so sure of Clinton beating Trump as well.

There's really no way to be sure of this 2020 election. I live in Ohio so the perception around me is sometimes an indicator of what might pull the election, can't really know. Towards the end of the 2016 election (3-4 months before) I kind of started to think Trump is going to win since saw so many people around me be all about Trump and the continued trend of people my age around me politically apathetic.

I don't think there is really any real way to gauge the moderates who would be willing to vote Trump again or vote democrat. My dad voted for Bernie in the primary but voted for Trump because that's how shitty of a candidate Clinton was. The trump cultists I doubt would be willing be swayed at all. But there's a lot of factors that can't really be measured. Trump narrowly won a lot of the voting districts in the swing states which means the election was a lot closer than people realize which is how Clinton had the popular vote since she had larger margins of victory in the districts she won vs Trump only had large margins of victory in red states whereas the swing states were very close and since the system is winner take all, you don't truly notice how close the election was from a distance.

If Trump gets impeached by the house, which looks like that could take place, I really just can't see the senate doing so. Because if the senate impeaches, that probably is for certain means the GOP is giving up the 2020 election and handing over an election is something the GOP would not forgive some senators and would treat them as pariahs in their own party.

As with most things, young people will basically decide the fate of the election and since they are the most politically apathetic group, no real way to tell. Since the young people in the swing states are even more apathetic than the young people in the coastal blue states. When I go to vote , I see maybe 1 person my age for every 4-6 people in the gen x/boomer age group. Which is crazy when you realize Millennials are 25% of the population which is equal to not greater than the boomer group.
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Quote (sir_lance_bb @ 5 Nov 2019 07:30)
People were so sure of Clinton beating Trump as well.

There's really no way to be sure of this 2020 election. I live in Ohio so the perception around me is sometimes an indicator of what might pull the election, can't really know. Towards the end of the 2016 election (3-4 months before) I kind of started to think Trump is going to win since saw so many people around me be all about Trump and the continued trend of people my age around me politically apathetic.

I don't think there is really any real way to gauge the moderates who would be willing to vote Trump again or vote democrat. My dad voted for Bernie in the primary but voted for Trump because that's how shitty of a candidate Clinton was. The trump cultists I doubt would be willing be swayed at all. But there's a lot of factors that can't really be measured. Trump narrowly won a lot of the voting districts in the swing states which means the election was a lot closer than people realize which is how Clinton had the popular vote since she had larger margins of victory in the districts she won vs Trump only had large margins of victory in red states whereas the swing states were very close and since the system is winner take all, you don't truly notice how close the election was from a distance.

If Trump gets impeached by the house, which looks like that could take place, I really just can't see the senate doing so. Because if the senate impeaches, that probably is for certain means the GOP is giving up the 2020 election and handing over an election is something the GOP would not forgive some senators and would treat them as pariahs in their own party.

As with most things, young people will basically decide the fate of the election and since they are the most politically apathetic group, no real way to tell. Since the young people in the swing states are even more apathetic than the young people in the coastal blue states. When I go to vote , I see maybe 1 person my age for every 4-6 people in the gen x/boomer age group. Which is crazy when you realize Millennials are 25% of the population which is equal to not greater than the boomer group.

young people not voting is a tale as old as time. complain the most vote the least
that said it’s a stupid excuse as a lot of places of employment permit employees to go take the time to vote on election day. or just vote early/absentee if that option is there. and if one isn’t employed well i dont know what to tell you

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Quote (Duckling @ Nov 4 2019 10:59pm)
ITT ... bunch of libtards waggin their dicks


Oh look guys it's Ducklings biweekly snark post devoid of substance.
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Quote (thesnipa @ Nov 5 2019 08:37am)
Oh look guys it's Ducklings biweekly snark post devoid of substance.




I dunno, seems pretty substantial to me. Seems pretty descriptive of this topic as well.
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Quote (Ghot @ Nov 5 2019 02:53pm)
I dunno, seems pretty substantial to me. Seems pretty descriptive of this topic as well.


Of all the posts in this thread like 6 were made by liberals.

Alzheimer's kicking in big time huh.
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Nov 5 2019 08:13am
Quote (Ghot @ Nov 5 2019 08:53am)
I dunno, seems pretty substantial to me. Seems pretty descriptive of this topic as well.


a short snarky sentence is substance to you, and the entire sub was shocked.... :rolleyes:

any time you post "substance" it's either a reuters article or a longwinded rant containing so many inaccuracies and self owning contradictions that people could identify you as a Trump voter with only a single glance.
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Nov 5 2019 08:16am
Quote (balrog66 @ Nov 5 2019 09:01am)
Of all the posts in this thread like 6 were made by liberals.

Alzheimer's kicking in big time huh.




It just seems that the liberals are posting more "times" than the conservatives.

/e I mean Icemage posted 5 times, himself. And, if you consider WHEN Duclkling made his comment... :)













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