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Jul 6 2019 11:31pm
Quote (Kayeto @ Jul 7 2019 12:08am)
The hard truth of whether the Apollo moonwalks happened may, at some point, become lost to history. All the people involved in the project will die, then all the people who knew them will die. Eventually, future generations will be left debating over hearsay and antique evidence. In the end, that truth is not the most valuable piece to the conversation. The more important aspect to the moon landing conspiracy debate is the narrative. The narrative of whether the masses believe we've already walked on the moon is a living, breathing idea that will affect people's behavior and public policy for years to come. Belief will matter more than truth.

Regarding that narrative, the right side to be on is undoubtedly to spout the belief that we have not walked on the moon. Support for this narrative will serve the better interest of humanity for the foreseeable future. The more people we can convert to this idea, the better off we are. I'll explain why:

In their heyday, the team responsible for the Apollo missions were bonafied rock stars. But today, the significance of the feat has dimmed. Generations of kids have been born into the world already believing that moonwalking is old hat, nothing to get excited about- nothing to provide financial support for. If we could convince the majority of the world that man has never been to the moon, then we would have a better chance of gaining public support for another moon mission. We could "walk on the moon for the first time" again. This could lead to more public interest in space exploration and more funding for NASA.


The project to send man to the moon had so much support because we were in competition with Russia to be a superpower, and the moon landings were something we competed over to ensure the dominance of our country on the world stage.

Truly, if you want to gain financial support for a return to manned missions to further destinations we need to be in direct competition with another hostile superpower.

This post was edited by Thor123422 on Jul 6 2019 11:31pm
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The project to send man to the moon had so much support because we were in competition with Russia to be a superpower, and the moon landings were something we competed over to ensure the dominance of our country on the world stage.

Truly, if you want to gain financial support for a return to manned missions to further destinations we need to be in direct competition with another hostile superpower.


And China is aiming to do it at the moment. So if people believe it has never been done before, then we can sell a race between US and China to be the first (again)

Quote (Ghot @ Jul 7 2019 01:25am)
Or we could just KNOW that we walked on the moon.
Sooner or later, over population will force us into space again. There's no way to stop that except for civilization completely crumbling.


"Sooner" might not be soon enough. By the time we are forced, it might be too late. It would be better to get it going even sooner.

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Quote (Kayeto @ Jul 7 2019 01:06am)
And China is aiming to do it at the moment. So if people believe it has never been done before, then we can sell a race between US and China to be the first (again)


It's pretty dumb to try to get people to "forget" about a historic moment that happened only one generation ago. When you need a goal you aim for the next highest level, not aim to re-do what you've already done. We should definitely challenge China to a race to Mars though, that would be cool as hell.
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Jul 7 2019 08:21pm
Quote (Algorhythm @ Jun 29 2019 06:04pm)
Before arguing about moon landing, we need to establish beyond reasonable doubt that the moon actually exists.


Lol this guy. Nice.
In the fermament or beyond?
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Jul 8 2019 02:00am
Quote (Thor123422 @ Jul 7 2019 08:23am)
It's pretty dumb to try to get people to "forget" about a historic moment that happened only one generation ago. When you need a goal you aim for the next highest level, not aim to re-do what you've already done. We should definitely challenge China to a race to Mars though, that would be cool as hell.


I don't think we're ready for that.

Establishing a moon base seems like the logical first step to colonizing the solar system. It's too expensive to launch from Earth indefinitely, and we need proof of concept that a long term base in a hostile, low gravity environment is feasible.

Not sure how you get the public as fired up for that.
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Jul 8 2019 03:31am
Quote (Plaguefear @ 29 Jun 2019 23:08)
What if the moon landing was real but the video was fake?


What if the video was real but the moon is fake?
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Jul 9 2019 09:20am
fake, Kubrick filmed it

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Jul 9 2019 04:23pm
Was the original moon landing (assuming the moon exists and it did actually happen) a worthwhile investment?
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Jul 12 2019 10:19am
Quote (Algorhythm @ Jul 9 2019 05:23pm)
Was the original moon landing (assuming the moon exists and it did actually happen) a worthwhile investment?


Yes, zero wiggle room. When the economic advantage of things invented to go to the moon gets calculated it's never close to break even.
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