Pretty clear? What about "Indians not taxed?" They weren't counted in the census. Because they weren't citizens. "Non voters" are counted because not everyone who is a citizen is a voter (children). And the 3/5 Compromise makes it pretty clear that states that had slaves WANTED inflated population numbers to expand their voice in Congress. Slaves weren't citizens but the South wanted them counted anyways. The free North didn't want to count non citizens. That's the whole reason they had to have a compromise.

Gross abuse of power is giving the highest medal available to civilians to Art Laffer because he wrote a book praising trump.

Maybe we can make another compromise and agree that they're 3/5ths a citizen?

I mean you shit on dermrocrats for wanting immigrants but there are right-wing orgs that support full-on open borders because they recognise the fiscal benefits of immigration. The Cato institute is a good example... and other Libertarian think tanks and groups are pretty much in line with this thought.

The genocide was pretty taxing, was it not?

You say taxation is theft, and we didn't tax the Indians, but we fucking stole from the Indians in way worse ways than taxation within the social contract.

If you're looking for lessons on how to marginalize other people then they would be a good example to follow as they supported slavery and genocide.

I don't care to follow their example because I disagree with their values.

I'm more of a John Brown fan personally. We should put him on a coin.

Get it right. It's not that hard.

Yes, there are Republicans and right-wing interests in exploiting illegal immigrants. But, by and large, it's the Dems who stand to gain the most from them. Dem politicians view them as potential, life-long constituents to the point Dem politicians out west are literally trying to dilute the concept of American citizenship by providing more and more benefits to illegals, inching closer and closer to see what they can get away with. Nice try with the whataboutism, but it's no secret and anybody wide awake can see it. Go on left-leaning, pro Democrat news networks and notice the narrative towards illegal immigration.


https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/immigration/record-number-undocumented-immigrants-flooded-southern-border-may-n1014186
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/new-border-surge-prompts-10-jump-in-2019-prediction-to-1-072-000-illegal-immigrants

Nearly 150,000 in the month of May alone. That's like a small American city, in one month. Granted most of them probably won't stay. But that's where the Dems are at fault, they're literally trying to hold up signs saying "Come here! Stay here! We'll even provide for you!" And of course they'll keep coming lol.

This post was edited by CarsV on Jun 13 2019 06:42am

Why would a group of people who are overwhelmingly Christian, pro-life, catholic, with very very traditional family values, be automatic lifelong democrats?

You guys keep saying this but it isn't very realistic.

because the democrats aren't trying to send them back to their country of origin.

would you rather vote for someone you agree with or someone who might be the difference between you being here or in Honduras?

also a bit funny that religious convictions are unbreakable when the left wants them to be and just a facade when the left wants them to be. and by the left i mean you

A lot of Hispanics vote Republican as evidenced by Bush and Romney. The Republicans brought them here lol. They just seem to be done using them and wish to discard them now?

This post was edited by Skinned on Jun 13 2019 10:22am

the republicans did 100% "bring them here", via produce picking jobs that paid 4$/hr cash and a demand for cash maids and cleaners. that's the economic side of immigration. But that's also not nearly as pertinent in 2019 as it was in 1999. In 2019 the immigration debate has a humanitarian facet with refugee migrants fleeing oppressive regimes and abject poverty. and we can all agree the right isn't drawing people up in 2019 for charity. plus there are plenty here already to do field work and low price service work such as cleaning and landscaping. so the right doesn't want more, even if they do turn out to be conservative republican voters.