Quote (fender @ Nov 6 2018 02:24pm)
see that's what desperately trying to assume the 'centrist' role does: you end up feeding (even if you don't outright claim it's equal, you pretty much make it sound like it was) the false equivalences made by the party that is SIGNIFICANTLY worse than the other when it comes to voter suppression and disenfranchisement.
while it's technically true that 'both parties do it' when it comes to gerrymandering (the massive efforts to outright PREVENT people from voting across multiple states are ofc almost EXCLUSIVELY a republican tactic), the degree and frequency of which they do it makes all the difference. so please spare me that apologetic rhetoric...
http://election.princeton.edu/2012/12/30/gerrymanders-part-1-busting-the-both-sides-do-it-myth/oh really, i'm sure you can provide sources to support that claim. just like trump when he made it because he was embarrassed that someone as awful as hillary still beat him in the popular vote by 3 million votes, more than 2 percentage points. oh wait, there is actually no evidence to support that, it has been debunked multiple times, and trump's little voter fraud commission had to be disbanded... i'm sure he'd be happy to hear that his loyal cultist don't care about FACTS and still support his moronic claims - because of FEELINGS...
democrats gerrymander less, but still do it as well, that's true. Democrats also have a vested interest in not fixing minority populations lot in life in the inner cities, they're free votes as long as they stay bunched up. when people from the hood become successful they move out, usually into more affluent neighborhoods where their votes are demographically watered down by majority whites. democrats have also been caught, as well as the GOP, busing in people to shift demographics over the years.
we can define voter disenfranchisement to make either side look bad, in reality both sides play tricks with our votes along demographic lines. they each have their tools, and they each use them at every chance they can get. the entire narrative that the GOP is the party of disenfranchisement implies that the democrats are more pro democracy, which is silly. they just happen to be the part of minorities, and utilizing a minority electorate is inherently harder, plus gives you opportunities to blame the majority early and often for anything you see as disenfranchisement as malicious and cognizant.
i think you misread my statement as saying the both sides gerrymander equally or even close to equally. or maybe given all the "you didnt say but you need to be aware of what you connotation" garbage in there you dont actually care about what i meant. you seem to want to argue a strawman. or worse yet you're still on your crusade to prove im a fake centrist that actually shills for the right with apologetics. for a zealot as far left as you are i take that as a compliment, of course you see me as a right shill, the center is a country mile right of where you sit.