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May 8 2018 02:31pm
Quote (Surfpunk @ May 8 2018 02:22pm)
Judgment fund or not, the money was paid to the US originally by the pre-Revolution Iranian government for arms which were never delivered, due to the Revolution and fall of the Shah. We've technically owed Iran this money since 1979.


we technically paid them back in 1990 with a partial settlement. We owed money to an entity that no longer existed, and those $400m assets were left in permanent limbo, and remaining $1300 million came from taxpayers by twisting the judgment fund to the breaking point
Obama was under no obligation to ever repay back this money and his 'settlement' was a voluntary concession, nothing more than an excuse to wrap his payout around. If he hadn't decided to concede that money in a 'settlement', it never would have gone anywhere. Lets not pretend the tail is wagging the dog- Obama had a diplomatic goal and searched for some baloney legal precedent to wrap it around. This was very much right up the alley of his second term of rather desperate pragmatism to circumvent the law at all costs to accomplish the goals he wanted without going through the proper channels when they wouldn't give him the results he wanted. Same shit with DACA, Obamacare, oodles of regulations, etc. He built it on unstable footing and it collapsed.

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May 8 2018 02:33pm
Quote (thesnipa @ May 8 2018 09:24pm)
just putting this out there, i put 400$ into an inflation calculator with 1979 as the start date and 2015 as the end, the result is $1,382.


the fed are at it again, stealing people's savings
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May 8 2018 02:34pm
Quote (IceMage @ May 8 2018 07:23pm)
Looks like we'll pull out of the Iran deal.

The question I have for PaRD(and Trump supporters especially), what's the alternative to this deal? It seems to me that this is going to force us to confront them militarily in the near future. I thought you guys didn't want more war?

This is a hawkish move by Trump, plain and simple.


Yes let's keep making deals which are awful for us.

Cucks with cuck attitudes are what's wrong with the country. Good thing Trump isn't a pussy like Obama and Kerry.
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May 8 2018 02:34pm
Quote (dro94 @ May 8 2018 02:33pm)
the fed are at it again, stealing people's savings


i was just shocked at how evenly the figures line up with just pure inflation, not even the idea that you'd need to invest it to close the gap.

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Yes let's keep making deals which are awful for us.

Cucks with cuck attitudes are what's wrong with the country. Good thing Trump isn't a pussy like Obama and Kerry.


thank god someone that everyone will take seriously has finally arrived.

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May 8 2018 03:01pm
Quote (dro94 @ May 8 2018 04:33pm)
the fed are at it again, stealing people's savings


this but unironically

Quote (thesnipa @ May 8 2018 04:34pm)

thank god someone that everyone will take seriously has finally arrived.


they can feel free to not take him seriously at their own peril
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May 8 2018 03:15pm
Quote (dro94 @ May 8 2018 01:33pm)
the fed are at it again, stealing people's savings


Or helping people get out of debt so they can actually save, which is the case for the larger number of Americans.

Inflation is great for debtors, but unfortunately inflation rates are too low right now.

http://econofact.org/whats-the-problem-with-low-inflation

edit: what our economy needs right now is a negative prime rate and 4% inflation.

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May 8 2018 03:19pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ May 8 2018 03:01pm)
this but unironically



they can feel free to not take him seriously at their own peril


Blind squirrels find nuts. Or more accurately when u just parott the common narrative you're only right if it is.
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dammit can't get my image to post

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dammit can't get my image to post


download it and then upload it to imgur or something. I'm sure it's valuable to our conversation.
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