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Mar 1 2018 07:55am
Quote (thesnipa @ Mar 1 2018 08:36am)
Anyone have a credible argument for making a legal age of 21 for gun purchases?

If you have good parents who are monitoring your gun use they can buy it, if you're a rogue edgelord looking to buy a gun in secret for a school shooting you can't.

honestly seems like a pretty simple change to make that wont affect law abiding gun owners. slippery slope and such but.....


Pretty hard to justify requiring age 21 when it's the 2nd amendment and by law you are considered an adult by the court.
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Mar 1 2018 08:03am
Quote (thesnipa @ 1 Mar 2018 09:36)
Anyone have a credible argument for making a legal age of 21 for gun purchases?

it will stop people from buying guns until 21!!!! because stopping people by law from purchasing a product that is linked to violence, and is dangerous in hands of angry people, until they are 21 has show to have 100% effectiveness
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Mar 1 2018 09:08am
Quote (excellence @ Mar 1 2018 09:03am)
it will stop people from buying guns until 21!!!! because stopping people by law from purchasing a product that is linked to violence, and is dangerous in hands of angry people, until they are 21 has show to have 100% effectiveness


Criminals are renowned for their strict adherence to laws. This will be a fantastic solution.

On another side note, why do people quote and take things they see on R/The_Donald seriously? If you take the info on that ridiculous page and extrapolate it to the rest of the "Trump Cultists" you're moronic.

INB4 Trump cultist REEEEEE - didn't vote for him. Just an obs.
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Mar 1 2018 09:11am
Quote (djman72 @ Mar 1 2018 10:08am)
Criminals are renowned for their strict adherence to laws. This will be a fantastic solution.

On another side note, why do people quote and take things they see on R/The_Donald seriously? If you take the info on that ridiculous page and extrapolate it to the rest of the "Trump Cultists" you're moronic.

INB4 Trump cultist REEEEEE - didn't vote for him. Just an obs.


Collusion confirmed.
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Mar 1 2018 09:16am
Quote (sir_lance_bb @ Mar 1 2018 07:55am)
Pretty hard to justify requiring age 21 when it's the 2nd amendment and by law you are considered an adult by the court.


same goes for alcohol. old enough to die for your country but not old enough to drink a beer.

in both cases a consenting parent figure can easily circumvent the law, but a young adult planning something nefarious has a harder time.

if we're going to take a highly specific incredibly nuanced approach to stopping mass shootings, without going Aussie, this seems like a pretty fair compromise. No AR/semi auto ban, simple restriction that in all likelihood wont stop a single law abiding citizen from getting one. Do you know of any AR owners who dont have adults in their lives who got them interested and would help them get one? Or better yet buy one and hold it for 3 years until its legal for the child to posses? What does this stop? kids taking ARs to their freshman year in college? Solo hunting with a semi auto rifle from 18-21? etc
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Quote (IceMage @ Mar 1 2018 10:11am)
Collusion confirmed.


Have we, yet?

I'm still waiting.
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Mar 1 2018 09:56am
Quote (djman72 @ Mar 1 2018 10:16am)
Have we, yet?

I'm still waiting.


Looks more like it'll be some conspiracy charge. Deep state Mueller 2020.

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Quote (IceMage @ Mar 1 2018 10:56am)
Looks more like it'll be some conspiracy charge. Deep state Mueller 2020.


Conspiracy to conspire?

What are they going to settle on?

They had bad thought in their head?
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Mar 1 2018 09:59am
Quote (djman72 @ Mar 1 2018 10:08am)
Criminals are renowned for their strict adherence to laws. This will be a fantastic solution.

why have any laws at all if criminals will break them?
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Mar 1 2018 10:00am
Quote (djman72 @ Mar 1 2018 09:58am)
Conspiracy to conspire?

What are they going to settle on?

They had bad thought in their head?


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A criminal conspiracy exists when two or more people agree to commit almost any unlawful act, then take some action toward its completion. The action taken need not itself be a crime, but it must indicate that those involved in the conspiracy knew of the plan and intended to break the law. One person may be charged with and convicted of both conspiracy and the underlying crime based on the same circumstances.


:lol:

This post was edited by thesnipa on Mar 1 2018 10:00am
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