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Feb 21 2018 08:31am
Quote (majorblood @ 21 Feb 2018 00:04)
seems pointless and only to make people feel like there's a difference being made


Quote (IceMage @ 21 Feb 2018 10:24)
This. It's just a way to provide political cover for the administration.

should also make it illegal to illegally modify firearms with objects that mimic bump stocks. provides even more safety and political cover of taking action

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left wingers want "something done" and usually admit that even if its ineffectual that "at least we're trying SOMETHING". Seems like a perfect opportunity. This will do nothing, and that's what they have already said is acceptable as long as we try.

it's just another version of Obama's ammo ban, cheap optics win that wont do much of anything except for increase the number of guns bought.

Quote (Mastersam93 @ Feb 21 2018 06:27am)
Surprised so many people don't think these should be banned even though they don't serve any purpose for self-defense, hunting, etc.


speak for yourself kid, when escaping from Atlanta my horse rounded a corner to see a wall of the walkers. 3 clips later and there were less of them, if they hadn't gone after my horse giving me enough time to scramble inside of that tank i'd be a goner.

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Feb 21 2018 08:41am
speaks for itself if you have to resort to sarcasm and fiction to explain what you so desperately need bump stocks for...
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Feb 21 2018 08:58am
Quote (balrog66 @ Feb 21 2018 10:27am)
Hmm, I hadn't considered that part. Publicizing people's mental health data in order (or even the background check results) to be able to have private gun sales is quite the legislative wasp nest.


The background checks go a bit further then just mental health, in a way similar to our "VOG" for some jobs. You don't really have to publicize actual mental health data. So I'm expecting the main problem from sales between individuals to be that counterfitting these documents would not be detected often enough. (/e Then again, I might be wrong on that assumption) Dunno exactly how that works in the US).

Like most ppl I don't think banning only the bumbstocks will do a lot. I can however, only see their use when shooting at a large group where accuracy matters less and for that, it seems like a good baby step to take. It feels way too small of a step though.

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Quote (Knoppie @ Feb 21 2018 02:58pm)
The background checks go a bit further then just mental health, in a way similar to our "VOG" for some jobs. You don't really have to publicize actual mental health data. So I'm expecting the main problem from sales between individuals to be that counterfitting these documents would not be detected often enough.

Like most ppl I don't think banning only the bumbstocks will do a lot. I can however, only see their use when shooting at a large group where accuracy matters less and for that, it seems like a good baby step to take. It feels way too small of a step though.


Hmm. I'd guess that you'd make the seller of the firearm responsible then, that they'd contact whichever agency holds the info to see if the buyer is legit or not.

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Quote (balrog66 @ Feb 21 2018 04:03pm)
Hmm. I'd guess that you'd make the seller of the firearm responsible then, that they'd contact whichever agency holds the info to see if the buyer is legit or not.


would be difficult to check a track record of a seller and keep them responsible when basically everybody is a seller ;)

/e I actually only see that being plausible when every gun is registered just as the sellers and buyers for every transaction. Think about blockchain tech here to make it look cool.. ^^

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Feb 21 2018 09:28am
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“We have a lot of mental health problems in our country, as do other countries,” Trump said. “But this isn’t a guns situation.”
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Conclusion; bumpstocks are making people crazy

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Quote (Knoppie @ Feb 21 2018 03:58pm)
The background checks go a bit further then just mental health, in a way similar to our "VOG" for some jobs. You don't really have to publicize actual mental health data. So I'm expecting the main problem from sales between individuals to be that counterfitting these documents would not be detected often enough. (/e Then again, I might be wrong on that assumption) Dunno exactly how that works in the US).

Like most ppl I don't think banning only the bumbstocks will do a lot. I can however, only see their use when shooting at a large group where accuracy matters less and for that, it seems like a good baby step to take. It feels way too small of a step though.




/e2 (shit meant in my previous post *will not do a lot... can't edit...)

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Quote (fender @ Feb 21 2018 08:41am)
speaks for itself if you have to resort to sarcasm and fiction to explain what you so desperately need bump stocks for...


are you talking to me or one of the other fictitious characters who said they "desperately need bump stocks"? :rofl:
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Quote (snippy @ 21 Feb 2018 16:46)
are you talking to me or one of the other fictitious characters who said they "desperately need bump stocks"? :rofl:


if you want to play the "let's not focus on the issue but on the fact that this is not exactly what i stated" game you have to at least play by your own rules. no one claimed that anyone "said" they "desperately need bump stocks".

better make this very simple for you: do you think there are legitimate uses for bump stocks that justify not banning them? and if so, which?
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