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Aug 27 2016 09:10am
Quote (Voyaging @ Aug 27 2016 02:55pm)
If you think artificial machines can be alive then I'm curious how you define "life"?

I am a panpsychist, but agree that only complex systems of a certain kind can be conscious in a unitary, meaningful sense.

Suffer bots are among my greatest fears. Luckily I predict we're thousands of years away from conscious AI, unluckily I think once we figure out quantum computing I think it won't be a long way off and there's no telling what hellish life a sadist or apathetic would create. My hope is we all come to agreement on morality as a species before we ever have these technological powers.

I think there are enough strong ethical philosophers in the transhumanist and technology fields that we will grant beings that seem to be able to suffer the same compassion as humans. Although on the other hand, look what we do to nonhuman animals.

My hope is that genetic technologies will rapidly decrease in price and be available for virtually everyone, or even given as a human right. Ideally imo, "natural" conception without any genetic selection or editing will be outlawed as cruel. On that subject, with AI being most likely a long way away, I think developing CRISPR or similar genetic technologies and possibly also legalizing and doing research on designer babies globally, imo these will be the most important technologies ever invented and should be our absolute top priority, so we can reduce suffering, be vastly more intelligent, eradicate genetic diseases, and live overwhelmingly more fulfilling lives.

you need to separate alive from conscious, lets just focus on conscious
panpsychist though nice, buddism is definitely the way to go if any religion
what do you mean by suffer bot btw? causes suffering/wipes us out or suffers itself, it the latter why not, i can see the need for most emotions other than hate
if the former im happy for machines to replace us if they're as intelligent with their numerous physiological advantages, i'd perfer it if was from sterilization, we all die at some point anyway right, who cares if we pass on human will to a new better from of (want to say life now ^^) consciousness

(like we've put a lot of stuff about biology/physiology into the meaning of life, as that was all there was at the time, but not all of it would apply to synthetic organisms)

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Damn. Looks like a good djent riff you have there m8.

:p it's hello in binary

This post was edited by dakariii on Aug 27 2016 09:15am
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Aug 27 2016 10:05am
well it is true that literally everything that exists can be represented by one number ^_^
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Aug 27 2016 10:25am
We are the universe experiencing itself. If the whole universe existed but no living things were around to observe it then did it truly exist? The universe needs life to observe it to exist at all.
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Aug 27 2016 10:45am
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We are the universe experiencing itself. If the whole universe existed but no living things were around to observe it then did it truly exist? The universe needs life to observe it to exist at all.

interesting, if a tree falls in the woods and no-one hears it does it still make a sound?
you seem to still be separating the universe and us experiencing it though, are you sure it's not just no universe and only experience
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Aug 27 2016 11:35am
Quote (duffman316 @ Aug 27 2016 11:05am)
well it is true that literally everything that exists can be represented by one number ^_^


Duffman = 1

There.
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Quote (dakariii @ Aug 27 2016 10:10am)
you need to separate alive from conscious, lets just focus on conscious
panpsychist though nice, buddism is definitely the way to go if any religion
what do you mean by suffer bot btw? causes suffering/wipes us out or suffers itself, it the latter why not, i can see the need for most emotions other than hate
if the former im happy for machines to replace us if they're as intelligent with their numerous physiological advantages, i'd perfer it if was from sterilization, we all die at some point anyway right, who cares if we pass on human will to a new better from of (want to say life now ^^) consciousness

(like we've put a lot of stuff about biology/physiology into the meaning of life, as that was all there was at the time, but not all of it would apply to synthetic organisms)


:p it's hello in binary


Yea lol. This is the video it reminded me of when I saw your post.
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This.

Its an interesting theory, Ive heard of "digital universe" before, but seriously wtf.
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Quote (EndlessSky @ Aug 27 2016 08:09am)
This.

Its an interesting theory, Ive heard of "digital universe" before, but seriously wtf.


The matrix is "heaven" in the digital universe. World withins worlds.



https://youtu.be/v79lVNKthCw
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Quote (card_sultan @ 27 Aug 2016 19:20)
The matrix is "heaven" in the digital universe. World withins worlds.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQdPpqqwtho

https://youtu.be/v79lVNKthCw


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