I thought that was more or less implying that the idea that anyone's against Hillary because she's a woman is ridiculous, which it isn't at all. Tons and tons of the discussions about Hillary are incredibly gendered.

I understand what you're saying for sure, but I also think that you're absolutely out of your minds for thinking that the 'colorblind' thing is actually accurate - and also think that you're overestimating your generation's appeal to a political candidate and how much she cares about talking to you. I also think that what you're saying is much more true in whiter communities than elsewhere.

Man... Hillary's big smile gives me the willies.

BWAHAAHHAHAHHHHAAAA!

Kk mate.

Taking that victory lap on stage.

"We are all standing under a glass ceiling right now." lol, so good.

yeah you're right thats pretty scary.


Who has some rocks?

You don't think my generation is less racist than the generation before us? I never claimed we were completely colorblind, just more colorblind than the people who came before us. That's a fair point I suppose, but she should expect a disconnect because women my age didn't grow up in the same world she did.

I only know white people but typically we're the ones who make progress before the brown/black people jump on board.

Well, I can't speak for the entire feminismt movement, but I've determined that equity feminism is what is best for creating real gender equity in America.

And a part of any good feminist doctrine is making gender a non-issue in pay, every day life, in politics, and etc.

Hillary Clinton has not done this. She frequently mentions her gender to dodge hard questions or gain political points. It's hindering the progress that so many feminists have worked hard to achieve.



I think people that say they are "color-blind" or don't see gender are lying to themselves. I reject these ideas.

Of course we see gender and race. It's inevitable and human nature. Also, races differ from each other and the genders are different.

The important step is to not put any weight in those differences in the context of ability, intelligence, competence, etc. In this sense, equity is probably a better word than equality.



Not all feminists. Of course you could point to some bad examples.

But in general, feminism has been very good for America and the world in terms of gender equity.

Women haven't even had the right to vote in America for a full 100 years. Without feminism, I'm not sure that would have happened.

Praise be to Elizabeth Cady Stanton, Lucretia Mott, and the feminists who worked hard to make gender less of an issue in American society during that time period.

This post was edited by ThatAlex on Jun 7 2016 08:33pm

Honestly idk how bad sexism is in the USA. I just assumed you guys would be where we are as one of the most advanced countries in the world. But I guess you are some 20 yrrs behind on female leaders.

We're not a country of beta males so it took us a bit longer.

Well right, but accomplishing the bolded doesn't also have to involve ignoring a person's gender, as we can recognize the social and historical significance of being the first female nominee for a major party, and potentially the first female president.

You're right in that the end-game is for gender to be largely irrelevant with respect to politics, but we're not there yet, and not really close to it either. To get there though, we're going to take incremental steps, and as we do so, steps that signify progress ought to be celebrated.

This post was edited by Handcuffs on Jun 7 2016 08:38pm