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Apr 7 2016 09:03pm
Hillary is best option for moderate Democrats, and Sanders is the best option for liberals and progressives.
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Apr 7 2016 09:27pm
Quote (Santara @ Apr 7 2016 07:59pm)
The GOP for over 100 years nominated their candidates in a republican fashion, by electing delegates who selected the candidate. Then 40 years ago, the GOP decided we should start selecting our candidates like the Democrats do (democratically), and it's been all downhill since. Further proof that republicanism is better than democracy.


Remember that when your party daddy's are throwing your vote away.

Do quick to give up rights and vote against your class interest.

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hillary is a chameleon who will say anything to get elected
shame on you for blindly supporting such a vile, disgraceful human


blindly supporting? I am working out who I should support right now. If you read my post, I am not "blindly supporting" everyone. My dilemma is that I have reasons not to support everyone.

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If you don't list any examples you have no argument.

Higher ups in national security say it would be foolish to assume classified data wasn't already compromised because of her, they've already had to change their strategies to protect secrets. They should put Hillary in jail and bring back Petraeus.


Jail for what? Show me the law she broke and the penalty that accompanies it, please.

Are you saying I have no argument against Trump? My argument against him is that he has no political experience; he has repeatedly demonstrated his inability to grasp basic policy issues; he acts arrogantly and disrespectfully.

Trump is applying for the most important job in the world (arguably). The way he's behaving, I wouldn't hire him to work at my local car wash. The campaign is a job interview, and yelling and whining and pissing and screaming and being rude DISQUALIFIES you for most employment -- it especially should do so for the most important job in the world.
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Apr 8 2016 02:54pm
Quote (312 @ Apr 8 2016 02:38pm)
blindly supporting? I am working out who I should support right now. If you read my post, I am not "blindly supporting" everyone. My dilemma is that I have reasons not to support everyone.



Jail for what? Show me the law she broke and the penalty that accompanies it, please.

Are you saying I have no argument against Trump? My argument against him is that he has no political experience; he has repeatedly demonstrated his inability to grasp basic policy issues; he acts arrogantly and disrespectfully.

Trump is applying for the most important job in the world (arguably). The way he's behaving, I wouldn't hire him to work at my local car wash. The campaign is a job interview, and yelling and whining and pissing and screaming and being rude DISQUALIFIES you for most employment -- it especially should do so for the most important job in the world.


Well assuming that you could prove she stored info of a classified nature that poses a threat to national security knowingly I'd say treason, with a penalty of Death.

Lucky for us the Bush administration pushed through a slew of catch all laws in the Patriot Act era so she could be prosecuted on one of many offenses.

But it all comes down to if you can prove intent, which you likely can't legally speaking. Which means support or lack thereof for Hillary on the basis of her potentially illegal yet unprosecutable offenses come down to whether you personally trust her word. Many don't, which is why the legality and likelihood that she will be prosecuted in this instance means very little.

To give a fairly simple example to illustrate my point:

2 people take a ship into international waters to Fish. One person returns with a crazy story of how the other person died. Your trust in this person dictates whether you support them personally more than the likelihood the law will prosecute them.
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Apr 8 2016 03:24pm
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Well assuming that you could prove she stored info of a classified nature that poses a threat to national security knowingly I'd say treason, with a penalty of Death.

Lucky for us the Bush administration pushed through a slew of catch all laws in the Patriot Act era so she could be prosecuted on one of many offenses.

But it all comes down to if you can prove intent, which you likely can't legally speaking. Which means support or lack thereof for Hillary on the basis of her potentially illegal yet unprosecutable offenses come down to whether you personally trust her word. Many don't, which is why the legality and likelihood that she will be prosecuted in this instance means very little.

To give a fairly simple example to illustrate my point:

2 people take a ship into international waters to Fish. One person returns with a crazy story of how the other person died. Your trust in this person dictates whether you support them personally more than the likelihood the law will prosecute them.


As far as I've heard intent isn't a factor in her crime of exposing classified to risk of being intercepted by hackers etc.

Gross in-competence is just the same intentional in-competence?



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Apr 8 2016 03:26pm
Corrupt bitch
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Apr 8 2016 03:33pm
Bernie is starting to stumble a bit on the detail parts of his policy questions in the interviews I've been seeing.

The candidates have to be exhausted by now but he is going to have to have better answers and delivery going forward.

This is where Hillary is edging out the competition. Many are tired of the same ole same ole but if Trump and Bernie don't nail the details in the speeches a better detailed same ole same ole may have to do for people
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Apr 8 2016 03:35pm
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As far as I've heard intent isn't a factor in her crime of exposing classified to risk of being intercepted by hackers etc.

Gross in-competence is just the same intentional in-competence?


We'll I'm pretty sure that treason doesn't fit the bill if done by negligence. Negligence charges of some kind would still apply i'm sure but I have no clue about the laws in that sector.
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Apr 8 2016 03:49pm
Quote (312 @ Apr 8 2016 04:38pm)
blindly supporting? I am working out who I should support right now. If you read my post, I am not "blindly supporting" everyone. My dilemma is that I have reasons not to support everyone.



Jail for what? Show me the law she broke and the penalty that accompanies it, please.

Are you saying I have no argument against Trump? My argument against him is that he has no political experience; he has repeatedly demonstrated his inability to grasp basic policy issues; he acts arrogantly and disrespectfully.

Trump is applying for the most important job in the world (arguably). The way he's behaving, I wouldn't hire him to work at my local car wash. The campaign is a job interview, and yelling and whining and pissing and screaming and being rude DISQUALIFIES you for most employment -- it especially should do so for the most important job in the world.


You're clearly mentally handicapped. Hes worth 4 billion after running hundreds of businesses.

You probably didn't have a father or something either - and mistake masculinity / standing up for your honest convictions as just being big and mean and smelly.

You've also listed no policy examples either. Way to double down on failure.


If a conviction doesn't happen, I wouldn't be surprised if the head workers of the FBI resigned, revealing the Obama administration as one of the most opaque and corrupt ones in history.
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Apr 8 2016 03:51pm
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You're clearly mentally handicapped. Hes worth 4 billion after running hundreds of businesses.

You probably didn't have a father or something either - and mistake masculinity / standing up for your honest convictions as just being big and mean and smelly.

You've also listed no policy examples either. Way to double down on failure.


If a conviction doesn't happen, I wouldn't be surprised if the head workers of the FBI resigned, revealing the Obama administration as one of the most opaque and corrupt ones in history.


Just following Daddy Trump's example.
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