What the answer really was was:



Do you notice how those words make the meaning change? If you ask any devout Christian which is more important to him His service to God and being a Christian or the laws of the country, you get the same answers.

It doesn't mean that they aren't going to follow the laws of the country, it just means that they hold their religious laws as most important. It doesn't matter what religion it is.

I don't know if I have the energy to go through this fucking list

Voyaging You have actually made me sick in your obvious vicious hate for a group of people because of who they pray to

I made a thread which merely listed the results of polls. I stated no motive nor opinion, and noted the single valid criticism that has been brought up in this thread by Valhalls_Sun. I did not even claim that the polls were methodologically sound or accurate, primarily because I don't know if they are and was hoping that the members of this forum could point out any errors. So yes, you are the one who is not being objective.

Then why only quote the poll numbers that paint Muslims in a negative light?

This is a poor troll is what it is. I see you.

Because I am interested in whether or not people can adequately point out the errors in polls that paint Muslims in a negative light. I am merely trying to learn, I have no horse in this race.



You are massively overreacting, I have no hate for Muslims.

They can vote for Ted Cruz.

If that's the case why don't you just do the research yourself? Can't you accurately point out the errors? Or do you want PaRD to do all the work for you?

It's a fuckton of random polls... I haven't the time or inclination to investigate each of them for their methodology, bias and accuracy.

I want PaRD to do all the work for me.

As far as I can tell at the moment, the polls are largely accurate.

This post was edited by Voyaging on Nov 20 2015 12:14pm

Have you ever read 'How to lie with Statistics' by Darrell Huff?

They were accurate with the population they were taken from, in the context at that time and place, yes sir.

You've used the word 'fact' several times in this thread. Facts are things that human beings create out of words, experiments, and other artifice, correct? They are also influenced by who is asking the questions, what questions are being asked, who is being asked, who is the asker, and also the simple effect of observing a phenomenon alters the phenomenon so even asking the question itself will superimpose beliefs where none even existed prior to being put in the position to decide effectively who you are, at that moment in time.

I mean, it is a poll, polls create facts ("this poll says this", "this research states this"), and knowledge is generally constructed by the proliferation and arrangement of these facts in relation to the social forces operating in discourse. What is considered true is a direct function of power. It is questionable where they got their list of names to call from, and how many people did they call to actually get a respectable sample, who provided these numbers, where did they buy them from, etc. It isn't like there are individuals seeking the truth, lol.

This post was edited by Skinned on Nov 20 2015 12:25pm

It is a fact that the people of the population that were polled answered in the same way as the percentages show. That is what I mean by fact.