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#31
Sep 13 2014 02:02am
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 13 2014 03:54am)
here you are;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reeducation_camp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_Museum


nether one of those have anything to do with actual education

because real education 1000% also allows free choice and free thinking.

Those two things are examples of how indoctrination can pose as education.

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Sep 13 2014 02:02am
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 13 2014 03:54am)
here you are;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reeducation_camp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Creation_Museum


Education in name only.
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#33
Sep 13 2014 02:16am
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 12 2014 07:29pm)
Namby pamby bleeding heart liberals have made discipline in the family illegal and aren't content to just spoil their own brats so they grow up as entitled transexual hipsters, but want to enforce their own bad parenting on everyone else.
Why are there talking heads and legislators today that pretend as if whooping a boy for acting out of turn should be considered on the same level as domestic abuse, as wife beating or knocking a fiancee unconscious and dragging her body around like a sack of meat?
I bet you none of those quivering vaginas got the beating they deserved as a kid. When you grow up and stop being a whiny 10 year old, you learn that sister margaret and her lightning crack ruler was the one who made you grow up hard and fast.
Instead these laws are the result of generations of coddling, they never grew up and still think she's a big meanie butt. Well this is America getting its chickens come home to roost.

This is against history, against tradition, against human nature and how we evolved. If pain didn't have a purpose, it wouldn't exist.


Well, everything you said is very true and I like how straightforward you are, but all that crude language isn't necessary.
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#34
Sep 13 2014 02:37am
...while I have no major issue with mild corporal punishment as a form of reinforcement what Adrian Peterson did to his son is in fact serious physical abuse and rightly classified as criminal .
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#35
Sep 13 2014 02:39am
Quote (card_sultan @ Sep 13 2014 02:02am)
nether one of those have anything to do with actual education
because real education 1000% also allows free choice and free thinking.
Those two things are examples of how indoctrination can pose as education.


Quote (Voyaging @ Sep 13 2014 02:02am)
Education in name only.


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#36
Sep 13 2014 03:19am
Quote (Goomshill @ Sep 12 2014 03:29pm)
Namby pamby bleeding heart liberals have made discipline in the family illegal and aren't content to just spoil their own brats so they grow up as entitled transexual hipsters, but want to enforce their own bad parenting on everyone else.
Why are there talking heads and legislators today that pretend as if whooping a boy for acting out of turn should be considered on the same level as domestic abuse, as wife beating or knocking a fiancee unconscious and dragging her body around like a sack of meat?
I bet you none of those quivering vaginas got the beating they deserved as a kid. When you grow up and stop being a whiny 10 year old, you learn that sister margaret and her lightning crack ruler was the one who made you grow up hard and fast.
Instead these laws are the result of generations of coddling, they never grew up and still think she's a big meanie butt. Well this is America getting its chickens come home to roost.

This is against history, against tradition, against human nature and how we evolved. If pain didn't have a purpose, it wouldn't exist.


This offends me. Domestic abuse and child abuse can occur in any household and your tone here marginalizes the suffering of those abused in liberal households by denying it occurs.
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#37
Sep 13 2014 07:44am
Any physical discipline is barbaric and beyond what is required. We can educate our children without subjecting them to violence and torture.


I strongly object to physical discipline and suffered much during my childhood. OPs commentary is offensive at the least.

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#38
Sep 13 2014 07:49am
Many people were spanked, including myself, and I don't think it negatively effected me. I would never even consider spanking(hitting) a child. I don't have kids but I could never imagine spanking my nephew. Calling it barbaric is a bit too harsh, but I do think it's a little primitive. It shows a lack of creativity and patience in the parent.
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#39
Sep 13 2014 08:34am
Quote (Voyaging @ Sep 12 2014 10:11pm)
Uhm, fucking yeah, very wrong, just like the tens of thousands of years before that where rape was a common practice to spread human genes.



"Society has progressed despite people being abusive, murderous, raping, sadists, so it's ok" pretty much the dumbest argument in the book.


glad we cleared it up. it's unfortunate, however, that it took this long in our history for some one like you to have the perfect answer to this question. might i ask what other touchy subjects we can get your enlightenment on?
Rape is an issue that typically everyone (i say that because i have to factor in the nut jobs) can agree is wrong in todays society. thats not the case with spanking.
my point is mild punishment should continue to be allowed at the parents discretion. if they are excessive, let the courts figure it out, but i refuse to believe it's as barbaric and has as huge a negative impact as you're making it sound.
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Sep 13 2014 12:37am)
...while I have no major issue with mild corporal punishment as a form of reinforcement what Adrian Peterson did to his son is in fact serious physical abuse and rightly classified as criminal .


and I'm perfectly comfortable with him being charged if they deemed it excessive.

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Sep 13 2014 08:57am
Quote (PlasmaSnake101 @ Sep 13 2014 05:19am)
  the suffering of those abused in liberal households


This offends me. Domestic abuse and child abuse can occur in any household but probably more often in conservative ones
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