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Jun 25 2014 07:53am
Well. .. the Bible sais all our righteous works are like dirty rags or literally menstrual cloths. aka our Good works are liked used tampons when compared to God's holiness.

so good person in our eyes = lawbreaker in God's.

so in the eyes of a holy God 1 and 2 are the same and 3 and 4 are the same.
1 and 2 would go to heaven and 3 and 4 wouldn't. It may sound harsh to number 3 but don't shoot the messenger. we all deserve 3 and 4s punishment.
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Jun 25 2014 07:58am
Quote (Morphmcmanerson @ Jun 25 2014 08:51am)
Hey that's awesome man!
My sister graduated from Dartmouth with a degree in biology and just finished up med school a few years back! (She's an M.D now in private practice)
Between the actual schooling, and her residency, it's nothing short of a brutal field to get into.
I hope you have a true passion for medicine, you will need it!



Thanks! wasn't trying to brag I just wanted to be clear that I'm as educated about scientific data as anyone else. ya the application process is crazy. congrats to her
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Jun 25 2014 07:59am
Quote (wofire @ 25 Jun 2014 08:53)
Well. .. the Bible sais all our righteous works are like dirty rags or literally menstrual cloths. aka our Good works are liked used tampons when compared to God's holiness. 

so good person in our eyes = lawbreaker in God's.

so in the eyes of a holy God 1 and 2 are the same and 3 and 4 are the same. 
1 and 2 would go to heaven and 3 and 4 wouldn't.  It may sound harsh to number 3 but don't shoot the messenger.  we all deserve 3 and 4s punishment.


What makes us deserving?
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Jun 25 2014 08:01am
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... I knew all sorts of facts about the Bible.  But when I turned 15 and 16 I began studying it for myself ...


what do you know about the history and literature of those lands those ancient camel and goat herders traveled through (and picked up tales and legends they then claimed as there own) until they reached the mediterranean coast?
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Jun 25 2014 08:03am
Quote (Ghnami @ Jun 25 2014 08:59am)
What makes us deserving?


of punishment? God is perfection. God is just. To be both all broken laws must have punishment to follow through. If you ever done anything wrong. ..a white lie or a Lustful thought, then you don't measure up to God's standard. God can't be with imperfection so even one sin makes us deserving of death.
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Jun 25 2014 08:06am
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what do you know about the history and literature of those lands those ancient camel and goat herders traveled through (and picked up tales and legends they then claimed as there own) until they reached the mediterranean coast?


do I think it's possible that some stories could be incorporated from other people groups? It's a possibility. Their is a great flood in many religions. I know for a fact that Jews were a group who didn't really write much. .. most thing were oral traditions. so trying to say one people group came up with it first over another is a stretch. I believe that even if a story or 2 are borrowed in the old testament that the thread the Runs through it is the same. Their is a just Holy loving God trying to redeem his people to himself.
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Jun 25 2014 08:26am
Quote (wofire @ Jun 25 2014 09:53am)
Well. .. the Bible sais all our righteous works are like dirty rags or literally menstrual cloths. aka our Good works are liked used tampons when compared to God's holiness. 

so good person in our eyes = lawbreaker in God's.

so in the eyes of a holy God 1 and 2 are the same and 3 and 4 are the same. 
1 and 2 would go to heaven and 3 and 4 wouldn't.  It may sound harsh to number 3 but don't shoot the messenger.  we all deserve 3 and 4s punishment.


ty, i love straightforward answers !

i see you are answering to some personal questions, can i ask if you have any doubts about the existence of god ?

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Jun 25 2014 09:29am
Quote (wofire @ Jun 25 2014 06:53am)
Well. .. the Bible sais all our righteous works are like dirty rags or literally menstrual cloths. aka our Good works are liked used tampons when compared to God's holiness. 

so good person in our eyes = lawbreaker in God's.

so in the eyes of a holy God 1 and 2 are the same and 3 and 4 are the same. 
1 and 2 would go to heaven and 3 and 4 wouldn't.  It may sound harsh to number 3 but don't shoot the messenger.  we all deserve 3 and 4s punishment.


Doesn't this make righteous works rather pointless, and evil works rather irrelevant? The Bible seems to talk a lot about sin, but does sin even matter in the grand scheme of things? As long as you believe in god, you can shit all over the 10 commandments and it won't make any difference.
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Jun 25 2014 03:53pm
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Doesn't this make righteous works rather pointless, and evil works rather irrelevant? The Bible seems to talk a lot about sin, but does sin even matter in the grand scheme of things? As long as you believe in god, you can shit all over the 10 commandments and it won't make any difference.


no because knowing God makes you want to do good works. If you feel like you can defile the 10 commandments then you probably don't honestly want to follow jesus
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Jun 25 2014 03:54pm
Quote (2sexy4u @ Jun 25 2014 09:26am)
ty, i love straightforward answers !

i see you are answering to some personal questions, can i ask if you have any doubts about the existence of god ?


no doubt whatsoever... seen to much in my life and other's lives to not believe.
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