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Apr 23 2014 02:11pm
Quote (BardOfXiix @ Apr 21 2014 02:41pm)
This just in:  a daughter isn't a member of your immediate family.


But her daughter isn't the development, the grandchild is. An immediate family issue that impacts candidate recruitment is of the "my son is gay, will the new exposure that my family will receive as a response to me being on the presidential ticket negatively impact his life" variety. It's linear, and the farther removed from the candidate the less of an impact in the aggregate it has on the decision to run for office. Everything starts with the spouse and moves outward, moving on to children (almost always adolescents) and finally to grandchildren or grandparents. This development falls in the later category, which is of least concern, because Clinton's daughter is an adult woman who doesn't need Clinton herself to be actively involved during the pregnancy.

This is much different than if a 48 year old county commissioner's 20-year old daughter was pregnant and now the potential candidate has to decide if this is the right time to give up every semblance of a normal life in order to take on 20-hour days where they never see their family and can provide no financial or personal help to them. It's just simply not a development that changes the calculation.

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Apr 23 2014 03:33pm
Quote (Pollster @ Apr 23 2014 01:11pm)
But her daughter isn't the development, the grandchild is. An immediate family issue that impacts candidate recruitment is of the "my son is gay, will the new exposure that my family will receive as a response to me being on the presidential ticket negatively impact his life" variety. It's linear, and the farther removed from the candidate the less of an impact in the aggregate it has on the decision to run for office. Everything starts with the spouse and moves outward, moving on to children (almost always adolescents) and finally to grandchildren or grandparents. This development falls in the later category, which is of least concern, because Clinton's daughter is an adult woman who doesn't need Clinton herself to be actively involved during the pregnancy.

This is much different than if a 48 year old county commissioner's 20-year old daughter was pregnant and now the potential candidate has to decide if this is the right time to give up every semblance of a normal life in order to take on 20-hour days where they never see their family and can provide no financial or personal help to them. It's just simply not a development that changes the calculation.


Because having a child isn't a development for the parent.

This effects a member of Clinton's immediate family. Yes or no?
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Apr 23 2014 07:09pm
How many presidential favorites have decided not to run to fulfill the traditional role of grandfather?

This might be the most sexist thing i have read in a long time.
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Apr 23 2014 07:16pm
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How many presidential favorites have decided not to run to fulfill the traditional role of grandfather? 

This might be the most sexist thing i have read in a long time.


...this is about the female role of nurturer and not the male role of leader . Hillary's maternal instinct to help Chelsea with the new baby is both normal and natural .
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Apr 23 2014 07:31pm
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...this is about the female role of nurturer and not the male role of leader . Hillary's maternal instinct to help Chelsea with the new baby is both normal and natural .


You trolling? What does that have to do with anything?

It is assumed that she cannot do both. That is sexist and ridiculous.
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Apr 23 2014 07:35pm
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You trolling? What does that have to do with anything?

It is assumed that she cannot do both. That is sexist and ridiculous.


...how in the world is it sexist to acknowledge that the female of the human species is by far the superior nurturer of newborns , infants and adolescents ? We are talking basic biology here .
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Apr 23 2014 07:44pm
Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Apr 23 2014 05:35pm)
...how in the world is it sexist to acknowledge that the female of the human species is by far the superior nurturer of newborns , infants and adolescents ? We are talking basic biology here .


You your cis-bigotry out of here.
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Quote (WidowMaKer_MK @ Apr 20 2014 10:04am)
...with the announcement that Chelsea Clinton is pregnant there is speculation that Hillary will not run for President but instead opt for the more traditional womens role of grandmother and better spend her time  helping her daughter than running around the country campaigning for office . A very interesting development indeed .

This is such a sexist question... Mitt Romney has like 20 grandkids. You don't see him sitting in a rocking chair whittling and telling stories from The War (Missionary stories).

Can't blame Republicans for crossing their fingers and hoping she won't run, though.
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Apr 24 2014 09:04am
I wasn't aware we had so many women frequenting PaRD.

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Apr 24 2014 09:20am
As long as it's not another democrat we'll be fine
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