lol as if your argument has any merit

Clicking that link lead me into an hour long wiki binge. I still have like 4 tabs to read through still. Thanks...

My edit fucked it up.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Commandment

It's sort of annoying when someone makes one of these threads and clearly has never read the New Testament. I've really just begun to dive into Biblical scholarship, but it baffles me when people can't even read Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John.

I thought the old testament was an eye for and eye?

this seems to directly oppose much of what jesus taught.

oh, i see, so i should spend hours and hours reading the new testament, but you cant be bothered to watch one hour long video? whats the matter, afraid he might make sense?


heres a few quotes, though. jesus says he is only for the lost jews, not for non-jews:

matthew 15:24 He answered, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of Israel.” yes, he relents after she persists, but he wasnt going to, initially.


evidence that the initial followers of jesus followed the commandments: acts 5:27-39. the apostles are brought before the sandhedrin and many want to kill them. gamliel says to be wary of this, and to just leave them alone, because if their designs are of human origin they will fail, as theadus, and if not they are fighting against god. if they were not following the commandments, gamliel would not have said that there were any potential the he is the messiah, as the jewish belief was not (and isnt) that the messiah will abolish the commandments. if the followers of jesus werent following the commandments, he would have agreed to put them to death as heretics. gamliel basically said 'lets wait and see'. if the followers of jesus werent following the commandments, he wouldnt need to wait. he could say right then that they were heretics.

note that while modern christians put themselves back into this story and use it as proof of the veracity of their beliefs, saying 'look! we're still around!', modern christians are not the followers of jesus that gamliel was talking about. these followers were not pork-eating trinity-believing christians, they were jews who believed that jesus was the messiah. so the actual movement DID fall apart and disappear. what stayed around as christianity is something totally different.


from the sermon on the mount, a strong support of the commandments and the pharisees: "17“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them. 18For truly I tell you, until heaven and earth disappear, not the smallest letter, not the least stroke of a pen, will by any means disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19Therefore anyone who sets aside one of the least of these commands and teaches others accordingly will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever practices and teaches these commands will be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven."

seems pretty clear that he says the commandments will stay around...


another proof that he observed the commandments. i said previously "someone comes to jesus and kisses the 'fringes' of his garments. fringes, in the context of judaism, refers to a fulfillment of the commandment to bind fringes on the corners of your garments. that jesus was wearing them shows that he accepted and followed the oral traditions of judaism. the saducces, who rejected the oral tradition, didnt wear their fringes, they hung them on the wall."

the quote for this is luke 8:44. i made a mistake, she touches it, not kisses it, but there it is. while some translations translate it as border, many translate it as fringe or tassel. according to http://biblehub.com/luke/8-44.htm an xian commentator says as well that that refers to the fringes worn by observant jews.


so theres a few quotes for you to start, taken just from the first 20 min of the video which you cant be bothered to watch.




prove it wrong, then, hotshot.





what does?

Uh huh. And do you have any proof of this circular logic?

You might as well say Al Gore is the creator and inventor of the internet. If the internet didn't exist Al Gore wouldn't have existed either.

This post was edited by ReturnFormer on Oct 1 2013 05:00am

Jesus Christ is the creator of Christianity.
The Bible was written by God, so says the Bible.
Jesus Christ is God in human form, as stated by the Bible.
If these facts are true, and there is no evidence to suggest they are not in accordance with the context, then Jesus Christ is the mind behind Satan.
The truth is obviously not as black and white.

Jesus Christ never existed, nor Satan in the physical sense.
This is historically and evidently supported.
Jesus Christ and Satan are characters of representation of morality and amorality.
They are from a book of teachings to guide the minds in a sense.
The Bible is a compilation of great ancient minds over time, and then reworked as times changed. Even today, the Bible is edited by unrecognized authors all around the world.
There is no original Bible in existence, not even the oldest Bible still existent in the vault located in the Vatican City.

/e

Al Gore is not the creator and inventor of the Internet.

This post was edited by Immortal0 on Oct 1 2013 11:12am

nope, not interesting.

What? i havnt posted in this thread once, with this being my first post.

Find where ever you got that quote, read the post i quoted, and there's your answer.

This post was edited by Ylem122 on Oct 1 2013 11:42am