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May 15 2013 01:17pm
Quote (Santara @ May 15 2013 01:52pm)
Fantasy land? Are you implying these did not occur?


Yes, the attempt to portray these events as Obama "corruption" and "abuse of power" puts you squarely in fantasy land territory. Facts matter, maybe not in the echo chamber but they do in the reality-based community. People need to offer a factual understanding of events if they expect to be taken seriously. Then again with the wording of "the cover up of the Benghazi attack" there wouldn't be a question that we're dealing with someone who's criminally uninformed. Fortunately I determined months ago that we're talking hilariously disconnected from reality here, and not a simple case of "hurr durr I watch Fox News, what do you mean keeping your tires full of air saves gas?!?!?"
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May 15 2013 02:06pm
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Yes, the attempt to portray these events as Obama "corruption" and "abuse of power" puts you squarely in fantasy land territory. Facts matter, maybe not in the echo chamber but they do in the reality-based community. People need to offer a factual understanding of events if they expect to be taken seriously. Then again with the wording of "the cover up of the Benghazi attack" there wouldn't be a question that we're dealing with someone who's criminally uninformed. Fortunately I determined months ago that we're talking hilariously disconnected from reality here, and not a simple case of "hurr durr I watch Fox News, what do you mean keeping your tires full of air saves gas?!?!?"


Fox was way late on this one. I am enjoying watching Holder squirm and say "I don't know" ten thousand times today.
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May 15 2013 04:48pm
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Fox was way late on this one. I am enjoying watching Holder squirm and say "I don't know" ten thousand times today.


Why would anyone expect Holder to answer any differently when he's being asked about an investigation in which he recused himself? Granted I don't waste much of my time surveying House hearings and testimony but I wouldn't have expected anything different than what we got. I knew beforehand that my old boss (Chairman Goodlatte) would burn his five minutes on asking questions that everyone knows there are no answers to yet, that's what he always does. Prepare yourself for many renditions of "Uh uh, uh, now uh, is this amnesty?" when he chairs the long line of hearings when the House takes up the Senate's immigration bill.

The only worthwhile thing that I saw come out of today's hearing was John Conyers reminding everyone that Darrell Issa voted against the so called "media shield" (Free Flow of Information Act) back in 2007, and the only reason it wasn't there to "protect the AP" during this little episode was that even though the Democratic House passed it 398-21 the Senate Republicans filibustered it to prevent Bush from having to get the blood on his hands by having to veto it.

My Fox reference might have missed: it goes back to the 2008 campaign when Fox and other mouthpieces attacked Obama relentlessly for his answer to a gas prices question that people should keep tire gauges with them to ensure their tires are filled with the optimal level of air so they would use less gas and then would have to pay less for it, up until the point that AAA and NASCAR and everybody else came forward to clear up for Fox what the rest of us found out when we were taught how to drive a car.
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May 15 2013 05:30pm
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May 15 2013 05:32pm
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Yes, the attempt to portray these events as Obama "corruption" and "abuse of power" puts you squarely in fantasy land territory. Facts matter, maybe not in the echo chamber but they do in the reality-based community. People need to offer a factual understanding of events if they expect to be taken seriously. Then again with the wording of "the cover up of the Benghazi attack" there wouldn't be a question that we're dealing with someone who's criminally uninformed. Fortunately I determined months ago that we're talking hilariously disconnected from reality here, and not a simple case of "hurr durr I watch Fox News, what do you mean keeping your tires full of air saves gas?!?!?"


You might as well stop trying to pretend you have some mythical hold on "reality" fuckey. I posted a substantial list of egregious affronts (you know, FACTS) committed by the Obama administration, including the highly impeachable offense of blatantly violating standing federal law (the WPR) which is all about "reality." Sorry if you can't put 2 and 2 together. So much for math, eh?
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May 15 2013 06:54pm
Quote (Santara @ May 15 2013 07:32pm)
You might as well stop trying to pretend you have some mythical hold on "reality" fuckey. I posted a substantial list of egregious affronts (you know, FACTS) committed by the Obama administration, including the highly impeachable offense of blatantly violating standing federal law (the WPR) which is all about "reality." Sorry if you can't put 2 and 2 together. So much for math, eh?


Your list is an absolute joke, why on earth would I waste my time commenting on such imbecility? NLRB appointments and Fast and Furious? LOL. Get back into your bubble.
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May 15 2013 07:12pm
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Your list is an absolute joke, why on earth would I waste my time commenting on such imbecility? NLRB appointments and Fast and Furious? LOL. Get back into your bubble.


F&F was pretty bad.
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May 15 2013 07:25pm
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F&F was pretty bad.


It was an exceptionally stupid policy, just like every other inception of it like Wide Receiver and everything else, but it's not a scandal. I think "scandal politics" has allowed every detractor the opportunity to cry "scandal" at any time, regardless if it's warranted.
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May 15 2013 07:29pm
Quote (Skinned @ May 15 2013 05:12pm)
F&F was pretty bad.


ROFL

Your delusional obsession with F&F is absolutely delicious. You are so hilariously misguided with your "herrrr giving guns to cartels is bad herrr" that it makes me feel guilty for calling you out. For those of us who have a grasp of reality and don't live in a Hannity induced coma, this is a complete non-issue. The electorate has shown that they agree that F&F is a manufactured scandal by the right who refuse to show up for work.
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May 15 2013 07:41pm
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ROFL

Your delusional obsession with F&F is absolutely delicious. You are so hilariously misguided with your "herrrr giving guns to cartels is bad herrr" that it makes me feel guilty for calling you out.  For those of us who have a grasp of reality and don't live in a Hannity induced coma, this is a complete non-issue. The electorate has shown that they agree that F&F is a manufactured scandal by the right who refuse to show up for work.


I like the collaboration of things I use to smash delusions. It's a shame something so straightforward can't even pierce the bubble.

Oh well.
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