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Apr 30 2013 04:20pm
We don't need a 30 minute video for this. The absurdity of our budget problem can be simplified into one sentence: There are a lot of people in our government that only pretend to care about the fiscal health of the country, instead of actually enacting policies that show that they're interested in improving it.

We need to throw out all the clowns that just regurgitate rhetoric of the "hurr fucking durr I'm a fiscal conservative, we have to control our out of control spending hurr hurr hurr" variety and replace them with people that will make a fucking deal in good faith, regardless of party, and then build on the agreements with future improvements. If the incumbents won't even come to the table on fixing things like tax policy, military expenditures, Medicare, and/or corporate welfare then throw them out. There are office-seekers out there that know the kind of changes we have to make, and they need to be supported.
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Apr 30 2013 05:07pm
Quote (JayKwik @ Apr 30 2013 05:20pm)
We don't need a 30 minute video for this. The absurdity of our budget problem can be simplified into one sentence: There are a lot of people in our government that only pretend to care about the fiscal health of the country, instead of actually enacting policies that show that they're interested in improving it.

We need to throw out all the clowns that just regurgitate rhetoric of the "hurr fucking durr I'm a fiscal conservative, we have to control our out of control spending hurr hurr hurr" variety and replace them with people that will make a fucking deal in good faith, regardless of party, and then build on the agreements with future improvements. If the incumbents won't even come to the table on fixing things like tax policy, military expenditures, Medicare, and/or corporate welfare then throw them out. There are office-seekers out there that know the kind of changes we have to make, and they need to be supported.


...and this, ladies and gentlemen, is indicative of the fact that people think the problem is so simple when it is anything of the sort.

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This mess was a long time in the making. America was doing ok with a little socialism up until about 1965, and then we got the Great Society. Then we left the gold standard completely - which further reinforced Congress' ability to spend via their pet banking cartel, and just after that, we passed the budget "control" act of 1974 - which basically absolved Congress of the annual responsibility of budgeting by instituting baseline budgeting while simultaneously ushering in the modern era of pork barrel projects. Spending never got a chance to shrink when it needed to (something lefty hero Keynes requires in his theory during "good times"), and Congress started stealing the surpluses of Social Security in earnest to pay for the Great Society and other social (and defense) programs.


We have problems that are varied and compounding. Fucking morons that like to hurl around herp and derp followed by stereotypes and false generalizations would have you believe our solutions are simple, just get rid of "those guys" and their ideas, and all will be fucking peachy.
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Apr 30 2013 05:22pm
Quote (JayKwik @ Apr 30 2013 02:20pm)
We don't need a 30 minute video for this. The absurdity of our budget problem can be simplified into one sentence: There are a lot of people in our government that only pretend to care about the fiscal health of the country, instead of actually enacting policies that show that they're interested in improving it.

We need to throw out all the clowns that just regurgitate rhetoric of the "hurr fucking durr I'm a fiscal conservative, we have to control our out of control spending hurr hurr hurr" variety and replace them with people that will make a fucking deal in good faith, regardless of party, and then build on the agreements with future improvements. If the incumbents won't even come to the table on fixing things like tax policy, military expenditures, Medicare, and/or corporate welfare then throw them out. There are office-seekers out there that know the kind of changes we have to make, and they need to be supported.


Interesting. You never struck me as a Tea party supporter.
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Apr 30 2013 06:27pm
To the premise of this thread, I think it's worth nothing that

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The Treasury Department said that it expects to retire a net $35 billion in bonds, notes and bills from April to the end of June. That compares with its estimate from earlier this year that it would rack up an additional $103 billion in marketable debt in the second quarter.

Source: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424127887323798104578453290294756574.html
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Apr 30 2013 06:44pm
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http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/p480x480/483486_606160752746005_788996228_n.jpg

must've received sign-making lessons from the "Get a brain, morans" guy
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Apr 30 2013 08:00pm
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http://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/p480x480/483486_606160752746005_788996228_n.jpg


Because it would have been so hard for republicans to pay some randoms 20 bucks to hold those signs for a few photos.
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Apr 30 2013 08:37pm
Quote (Lifebane99 @ Apr 30 2013 06:00pm)
Because it would have been so hard for republicans to pay some randoms 20 bucks to hold those signs for a few photos.


At least Republicans have 20 dollars to give.
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Apr 30 2013 09:58pm
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Interesting. You never struck me as a Tea party supporter.


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May 8 2013 03:59am
Best part was the connection between banks and the assassination of JFK. He was an extremely popular president which made his murder all the more unlikely and surprising from a citizens point of view. But not from a banks. Good video brutha. The beginning was boring as fuck tho aha and corny.
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