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Jun 18 2012 05:48am
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The word is revealed and understood through the holy spirit, those who are dead will not understand and will misinterpret the word of God. False Christians are very arrogant and think they know everything however they are fools, for this reason God has turned away from them because they have hardened their hearts.

"For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie." Thess 2:11


the fraud of tarsus , still getting em nearly 2000 years later ......
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Jun 18 2012 08:21am
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The word is revealed and understood through the holy spirit, those who are dead will not understand and will misinterpret the word of God. False Christians are very arrogant and think they know everything however they are fools, for this reason God has turned away from them because they have hardened their hearts.

"For this reason God sends them a powerful delusion so that they will believe the lie." Thess 2:11

And yet you can't know whether or not you have been sent that powerful delusion and whether what you believe is actually a lie or not. You have a conundrum on your hands.
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Jun 18 2012 09:13am
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Muhammad was a false prophet and also a pedophile, he had sex with a 9 year old, one of his many wives.

If Muslims believe that Muhammad and Jesus are both prophets to the same God, well how come their teachings contradict one another? For example when an adulteress was presented to Jesus and was asked if they should stone her, he said "he who is without sin be the first to throw a rock" and then he forgave her for her sins, in this very verse, Jesus clearly shows love and forgiveness. Now when a similar situation happened, when a adulteress was brought forward to Muhammad, he stoned her and advocated others to stone her with him. If they are both prophets of the same God, why do their teachings and actions contradict one another?

Islam was built under Abu Bakr (Muhammad's successor) through violence and murder, however the apostles never used violence to spread Christianity. When Peter drew his sword and struck one of the guards who was going to take Jesus to his crucifixion, Jesus condemned peter for his actions, and went on to heal the ear of the guard. Muhammad condoned violence, and accepted it as a good way to spread Islam.

Edit - Also, the Old Testament is relevant to Christians however the Old Testament is the law of Moses (Judgment), we were delivered from that judgment and out of the law by the grace of Christ. The Old Testament has over 50 verses referring to Jesus Christ through prophecies, mostly in Isaiah and Ezekiel.


Your definition of pedophile, or should I say the definition of pedophile given to you. Mary was 12-14 years old and Joseph was nearly 40 when she had Jesus. Sarah was 9 when Abraham was 100 and they had Isaac. Don't impose your definition of Pedophile on others.

The teachings of Jesus and Muhammad are not different, what is changed in the Bible by man made it different. Use your noodle for the common sense.

Islam was not built through violence. Learn about Islam from a real source, not islamoph sites. Indonesia is the largest Muslim populace country right now, find the violence that was required for this. You cannot spread a religion with the sword, it does not make sense logically, none would convert. Islam is the fastest growing religion right now, what force is used to cause this?

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Your definition of pedophile, or should I say the definition of pedophile given to you. Mary was 12-14 years old and Joseph was nearly 40 when she had Jesus. Sarah was 9 when Abraham was 100 and they had Isaac. Don't impose your definition of Pedophile on others.

The teachings of Jesus and Muhammad are not different, what is changed in the Bible by man made it different. Use your noodle for the common sense.

Islam was not built through violence. Learn about Islam from a real source, not islamoph sites. Indonesia is the largest Muslim populace country right now, find the violence that was required for this. You cannot spread a religion with the sword, it does not make sense logically, none would convert. Islam is the fastest growing religion right now, what force is used to cause this?

Enjoy your day.


holy shit
you need to stay indoors more and read something other than the koran
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Jun 18 2012 09:35am
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Your definition of pedophile, or should I say the definition of pedophile given to you. Mary was 12-14 years old and Joseph was nearly 40 when she had Jesus. Sarah was 9 when Abraham was 100 and they had Isaac. Don't impose your definition of Pedophile on others.

The teachings of Jesus and Muhammad are not different, what is changed in the Bible by man made it different. Use your noodle for the common sense.

Islam was not built through violence. Learn about Islam from a real source, not islamoph sites. Indonesia is the largest Muslim populace country right now, find the violence that was required for this. You cannot spread a religion with the sword, it does not make sense logically, none would convert. Islam is the fastest growing religion right now, what force is used to cause this?

Enjoy your day.


Abraham was 100 and Sarah was 90 when they had Isaac...
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Jun 18 2012 09:43am
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Abraham was 100 and Sarah was 90 when they had Isaac...


god really had in it for poor old abram ....
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Jun 18 2012 09:59am
Should I copy and paste inconsistencies of Islam?

would be a wall of text like yours as well.
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Jun 18 2012 10:28am

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Should I copy and paste inconsistencies of Islam?

would be a wall of text like yours as well.


new topic material, its a discussion. Just get ready to get bashed. I suggest pre-research of the wall of text you will paste.

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Jun 18 2012 10:34am
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new topic material, its a discussion. Just get ready to get bashed. I suggest pre-research of the wall of text you will paste.


My point was that there are inconsistencies with both, So if you copy and paste on one while ignoring the other seems rediculous to me.

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Jun 18 2012 11:00am
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Your definition of pedophile, or should I say the definition of pedophile given to you. Mary was 12-14 years old and Joseph was nearly 40 when she had Jesus. Sarah was 9 when Abraham was 100 and they had Isaac. Don't impose your definition of Pedophile on others.

The teachings of Jesus and Muhammad are not different, what is changed in the Bible by man made it different. Use your noodle for the common sense.

Islam was not built through violence. Learn about Islam from a real source, not islamoph sites. Indonesia is the largest Muslim populace country right now, find the violence that was required for this. You cannot spread a religion with the sword, it does not make sense logically, none would convert. Islam is the fastest growing religion right now, what force is used to cause this?

Enjoy your day.


So? It was a virgin birth.

No, Sarah was not 9.

Yes, Islam was built through violence, that's pretty well established. Pointing out a random Islamic country in no way changes the fact that Islam was initially spread through conquest.
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