All that death is, is an inability for your brain to take in stimuli and simulate the world around you. That is obviously what happens and the only rational conclusion you can come to regarding death if you want to be honest about the discussion. It is not your obligation to be agnostic, and it most certainly is within the realm of reasonable possibility. I don't think there are too many other outcomes you can think up that are not completely bogus. After you die there is nothing but.... pink unicorn. So wtf can anyone do with that statement?

I am making an argument about what happens when you die; the logic is sound and completely within the realm of reasonable possibility. Provide a counter argument or make your own argument.

Consider it a possibility.

We don't know either way, you are bastardizing epistemology.

You have yet to make an argument using either logic or empirical evidence, and you can't because it is currently impossible.

It's not reasonable because you haven't experience death. Now if you want to operate on the idea that since the same amount of energy existed when you were alive or dead means there is nothing, that is a conclusion based on something that isn't proven whether or not something happens when you die.

Sure, lack of evidence points you in the direction that there isn't anything.

But you can't make that conclusion because you have not experienced death.

But go become and expert on this topic and get a gun or jump off of a 20 story building head first.

This post was edited by sir_lance_bb on May 12 2012 06:05pm

@ the bold. Wtf.... On what grounds should I consider everything a possibility, even the most nonsensical bullshit I can create on the spot.

At the red. I have already explained my reasoning and made my argument. If you missed the point I made then go reread the thread.

Tric's assertions are that the reality that we see is the reality that we have. It's a much greater leap (and thus requires a greater degree of evidence) to believe in the supernatural. So actually yes, the lack of evidence to suggest that there is no afterlife is "superior" to the lack of evidence to suggest that there is one. Or in better wording, it's more reasonable to believe that there is no afterlife than it is to believe that there is one due to the fact that you need to take a "leap of faith" in order to believe in an afterlife.

I think you might misunderstand the beliefs about reincarnation. The goal of Hinduism (the largest religion which believes in reincarnation) is to escape the Samsara, not to continue to be a part of it as a source of comfort for the fear of death.
Buddhists also believe in a cycle of rebirth, but it's not really reincarnation, it's different, the past life is not really the same person as the current one. And again Buddhists don't use the Samsara to relieve fear of death... the goal of Buddhists is to escape the Samsara by achieving Nirvana.

You can begin by learning what it means for something to be possible. You are in over your head and clearly uneducated on even basic philosophy.




No, maybe your bias leads you to that conclusion, but last I checked lack of evidence is lack of evidence.

You need to take an equal leap of faith to believe in the absence of one because there is no evidence, my friend.

This post was edited by Voyaging on May 12 2012 06:12pm

Stop bullying tric. He's just founding his conclusions on reality.

No need to get defensive.

I don't need to die to understand what is happening when something does die.

I fried my hard drive a couple years ago. I can't wait to meet up with it in hard drive heaven. I didn't actually lose all the data when the pieces corroded, it all just zipped into another dimension and is waiting for me. oooOOOoooo mysterious.



Confusing way to phrase that statement.



Ad hominem. Make your fucking argument or cede the point. Stop telling me I am wrong and prove to me I am wrong.

This post was edited by tric-isHUGE on May 12 2012 06:21pm

lol

Not really defensive. Just stating you can't make claims about death in certainty.

And also we know what happens to hard drives when they get fried bro. We know where that waste is put, and we also know those hard drives have no conscious, as they are inanimate objects.

This post was edited by sir_lance_bb on May 12 2012 06:19pm