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Dec 29 2011 08:20pm
Quote (thundercock @ 29 Dec 2011 21:19)
Don't listen to him.  His bias is so strong that he completely ignores the historical method.  He's very similar to a Young Earth Creationist.


That's not true. Young Earth Creationists at least have reference materials and don't just make blind assertions.
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Dec 29 2011 08:51pm
Quote (Torm1 @ Dec 28 2011 11:29pm)
Jesus didn't lie.


i like the second quote in your sig
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Dec 29 2011 09:36pm
Quote (thundercock @ Dec 29 2011 09:19pm)
Don't listen to him.  His bias is so strong that he completely ignores the historical method.  He's very similar to a Young Earth Creationist.




What your "historical method" argument boils down to is "duh... other people believe the myth, too... duh"
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Dec 29 2011 09:43pm
Quote (ArcticShadow @ Dec 30 2011 03:36am)
What your "historical method" argument boils down to is  "duh... other people believe the myth, too... duh"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_method

Come up with a better method then please.

Improve the current historiography.
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Dec 29 2011 09:54pm
Quote (thundercock @ Dec 29 2011 10:43pm)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical%5Fmethod

Come up with a better method then please.

Improve the current historiography.



Try to come up with some evidence, instead of a strawman.
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Dec 29 2011 10:46pm
Quote (ArcticShadow @ Dec 30 2011 03:54am)
Try to come up with some evidence, instead of a strawman.


My evidence is that historians, who know more about history than both you and me, believe that Jesus existed....and they used the historical method to do it. If anything, it is YOUR job to prove why the historical method doesn't work. You must also be aware of the ramifications of doing so (i.e. applying the same argument to all historical figures).
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Dec 30 2011 04:34am
Quote (thundercock @ Dec 29 2011 11:46pm)
My evidence is that historians, who know more about history than both you and me, believe that Jesus existed....and they used the historical method to do it.  If anything, it is YOUR job to prove why the historical method doesn't work.  You must also be aware of the ramifications of doing so (i.e. applying the same argument to all historical figures).




your "evidence" is simply that other people(who have an agenda) believe the myth.

This post was edited by ArcticShadow on Dec 30 2011 04:37am
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Quote (ArcticShadow @ Dec 30 2011 10:34am)
http://i43.tinypic.com/htuv0o.jpg

your "evidence" is simply that other people(who have an agenda) believe the myth.


His argument, whilst being an argument from authority (NOT A STRAWMAN), will hold if the authority is a legitimate expert on the subject and a consensus exists among legitimate experts on the matter under discussion.

It has a good chance of holding really. It is up to you to prove the experts wrong.
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Dec 30 2011 06:23am
It sure does seem like you people have a severe hate for Christians.

What's the diffrence between God creating the universe, and a singularity?
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Quote (Wowzers @ 30 Dec 2011 15:23)
It sure does seem like you people have a severe hate for Christians.

What's the diffrence between God creating the universe, and a singularity?


Jesus and the Church is not a singular God. Here are some of the church's list of fake gods:
"
Jesus
The Holy Spirit
Mary
The Bible
The Pope
and any priest in church.
"
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