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Quote (SooWoop @ 22 Jan 2011 17:14)
loli thought you were calling me a nut job >_<


No, you are like most people on earth who. A member of the "norm" I should say. :D
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Jan 22 2011 06:19pm
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i honestly hope this is true " believe in it myself, but if I want to do something(or don't), I follow myself. If a god or gods really exist, I think they would like us to live life how we want." nothing is more rewarding then self reflection and realization.


what is this from?
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Jan 22 2011 06:21pm
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I am an ACTUAL atheist.


sure you are ;)

any degrees? how long you been studying religion/philosophy? ever travel or have any real world experiences? are you over 30?

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what is this from?


from his passage

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Jan 22 2011 06:23pm
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from his passage


whose passage? can i get a citation please :P

e// btw would it be cool to post a thread about the origin of language & speech in this subforum? Or should i go to the science and technology subforum? 0.0

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Jan 22 2011 06:23pm
Quote (zeratul87 @ Jan 23 2011 12:21am)
sure you are ;)

any degrees? how long you been studying religion/philosophy? ever travel or have any real world experiences? are you over 30?


No, I have no degree. Do I really have to have a degree in the philosophy of religion to be an actual atheist? I have studied religion for 6 years. I am currently 20 years old. I have traveled.

Saying that someone is not an actual atheist because they don't have a degree in religious studies goes both ways. A person can't be an actual christian unless they're a theologian, right?
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Jan 22 2011 06:27pm
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No, I have no degree. Do I really have to have a degree in the philosophy of religion to be an actual atheist? I have studied religion for 6 years. I am currently 20 years old. I have traveled.

Saying that someone is not an actual atheist because they don't have a degree in religious studies goes both ways. A person can't be an actual christian unless they're a theologian, right?


i've been a member for academia long enough to know that a 20 year old atheist does not exist. but hey despite what i know people will tell me they are atheists. i'm not gonna sit here and argue your intentions haha there's absolutely no point.

it's cool if you believe that you are and honestly i promote the idea. i'm not an atheist but find that many agnostic individuals have an open mind about life in general and through their struggle of discovering where they belong they will learn a lot.

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i've been a member for academia long enough to know that a 20 year old atheist does not exist. but hey despite what i know people will tell me they are atheists. i'm not gonna sit here and argue your intentions haha there's absolutely no point.

it's cool if you believe that you are and honestly i promote the idea. i'm not an atheist but find that many agnostic individuals have an open mind about life in general and through there struggle of discovering where they belong will learn a lot.


Yeah, no one is a Christian if they're not a fucking theologian. Awesome logic there, bud.
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Jan 22 2011 06:29pm
Can we get a definition of an Atheist please? Maybe his idea of one is different from all of yours?

Atheist to me is simply without belief of a God or God's. God does not exist.
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In all likelihood, you (the poster) believe that God probably doesn't exist, and by asking Why questions (What is God's purpose == Why?) you're hoping to ascribe a reason or some ultimate purpose to something that doesn't necessarily need to have any reason at all.

if this is the point you were making i agree.

Well yeah, I think it's pretty clear that in this thread everyone's stating their own beliefs :P

I don't think it's possible to know for sure (people define God such that He's so much of a moving target that it's literally impossible to say for sure that God didn't do something), but I think from every available metric, there's no reason to believe in God, and so I don't. I'm open to the possibility of evidence coming along to change my mind (I got that from science), but I don't really think that's likely to happen.

And like I said, if you start looking at the universe assuming there's a reason, then that taints your ability to make observations because you'll see it through that lens. This is why some people find it so hard to accept the overwhelming truth of evolution. They view the world through the idea that God made everything, and so they can't accept the basic tenets of evolution (even though they aren't necessarily mutually exclusive to God).
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Jan 22 2011 06:32pm
Quote (SooWoop @ 22 Jan 2011 17:23)
whose passage? can i get a citation please :P

e// btw would it be cool to post a thread about the origin of language & speech in this subforum? Or should i go to the science and technology subforum? 0.0


My passage, I wrote it in a post on page one. Also, go ahead, I have no problem, and no should really have one. Specially as Language and Speech have many links to religion and politics.
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