There's this one bay where I heard you can pirate a complete copy of the files.

I'm on meds and I have cheeks the size of baseballs. I am a crotchety old man right now.

Anyone here ever prepare quarterly sales reports? Apply some of that knowledge to these.

1. I've only seen a few so far that even the most talented conspiracy theorists (think Datajunky) could work with.
2. I have yet to see the headers on any of them.
3. If you got more on these emails/files, hook us up!

I mentioned above where you can get every single one of the e-mails. The headers are totally legit, for sure. Here's a random mail that I just happened to have open as I'm cruising through them one by one:



I lol'd@bold

Raw data were NOT secretly destroyed to avoid efforts by other scientists to replicate the CRU and Hadley Centre-based estimates of global-scale changes in near-surface temperature. In fact, a key point here is that other groups — primarily at the NCDC [NOAA National Climatic Data Center] and at GISS [NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies], but also in Russia — WERE able to replicate the major findings of the CRU and UK Hadley Centre groups. The NCDC and GISS groups performed this replication completely independently.


Let me add, just to debunk this bullshit denier craze in one fell swoop:

They were measuring tree ring data. Tree rings contain anomalies (like knots, etc.) that have to be smoothed out in order to come up with the most accurate plot point on the chart possible. So fucking what if a little piece of a tree ring indicates the temperature fell during winter? The whole year has to be accounted for.

Furthermore, they had to add the real data from years 1960 onwards to the plots they created from measuring the tree rings in order to compare plots. Once this is done, the plots are averaged and a line is created showing the warming trend.


Suck it, deniers.


This post was edited by inkanddagger on Nov 21 2009 12:54pm

LOL i didn't get your reference to the website in question until I read it twice. Ok thanks (think i need some coffee!). While I'd like to accept your word on the headers, I'd like to see them for myself. Thanks for the tip though, I'll get a copy of the files hopefully.

It's worth the check, imo. I'm enjoying it, even though it's insanely boring.

And Finally:



You can see that each measurement (one is ice core data, one is tree ring data, one is actual recorded data) still follows a similar warming trend - across three unrelated organizations, including the one the deniers are attempting to use to "disprove GW". They have to naturalize these lines in order to figure out a real mean average.

You guys ever take math?

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Nov 21 2009 01:01pm

Very first one I opened (at random) filename 0926947295.txt if you have the torrent

No headers (I've looked a several now, none of them have headers, but I'm pretty sure they are legit anyway, curious that a hacker would steal email then removed the header...atypical for the community, but this is just a side note).


this email seems to be saying to me that they are bending over backwards to try to give an honest analysis of the situation, rather in conflict with the OP here

Exactly. Refer to my last two posts. They are making sure their data pools are all as accurate as possible. That's pretty much it.