the argument for gay marriage is always supported by vacuous platitudes like "love is love" or complete abandonment of morality in the west

there is no functional reason behind it, the most functional thing you can argue is you are appeasing degenerates which is again the abandonment of morality

This post was edited by majorblood on Aug 14 2025 02:58am

there is generally no functional reason behind marriage

Justify this claim

A releationship can look exactly the same married or unmarried. I can see administrational benefits for the state, but that can be the same if you just register your partner. A simple database is in case someone has legal claims is sufficient here.
I can't see anything an unmarried couple can't have? Do you? Apart from your personal morals?

morality is the foundation of society, to simply abandon morality is what causes decay. A traditionally married couple is different than unmarried and uncommitted partners, and people who take marriage seriously are far more likely to stay in that long term relationship and create a successful environment for children to grow up in.

this can be proven with data, but it also can be proven just anecdotally. Not taking marriage seriously has lead to a more promiscuous and unhappy society, seeing relations as short term gains.


can a relationship look generally the same between an unmarried or married person from a 3rd party observer? yes, but it does not mean that is what is likely to occur or even an accurate observation

The real commitment is deciding to have children together or to invest huge amounts of money in joint projects, such as purchasing a house or a flat. I am married and have two children myself, but the simple fact that I am married has had zero impact on how we act toward each other or toward the children.
A divorce is just a formality.
It actually makes me feel sad to think that some people only feel a greater moral duty toward their partner and children simply because they are married. That actually sounds rather immoral to me.

This post was edited by BaHgerAUT on Aug 14 2025 04:42am

I don't know how you came to the conclusion that "some people only feel a greater moral duty toward their partner and children simply because they are married" from what I said -- or maybe I misunderstood and you mean that as a general statement.

Marriage is a reflection of that inner morality and commitment to a societal good, not exactly what causes it in the way you worded it. It's not like you get married and are perfectly moral, but the institutional practice, and commitment that marriage entails is exactly what is reflected in the tradition of marriage. Is it possible for someone unmarried to stay more committed and faithful than someone married? Yes of course, but this isn't normative in societies that devalue marriage and see it as having "no functional reason". An exception doesn't make the rule.

If it only mirrors the morality you already hold within, it’s irrelevant and purely symbolic.

Kek

Oh shit, better tell my wife about the edits