Among other things yes, you can't continue to help if your people suffer more. At some point, you have to pull the plug otherwise you will be needing help. And no, moral high ground isn't going to help you in that case.

American taxpayer money should be spent on better things.

It shouldn’t go into the bank accounts of people that are already rich or wealthy.

This war is a scam and a tragedy.

Enough is enough.

Let that snake Zelensky solve his own problems.

Once he understands the wrath of Putin & Russia, he will beg Trump to make a deal.

But, for his sake, will he do it on time?

If not, then what type of execution would be best for him?

I don’t know how they execute people in Russia? Do they hang people or electric chair?

Well whatever method is used, I assume there will be a considerable amount of satisfaction throughout the world.

I guess another question is
Given the militancy and fatalism that already exists, will someone linked to the Ukraine military or a sympathizer for them try to assassinate Trump for pursuing peace? Again, I mean, because that already happened last summer

Probably, by any means possible they need to start this Malhama, with Trump holding things up they cannot turn Damascus into a heap of rubble yet.

There is one thing you forget about.
There are two blocs in the world, one of them is liberal, democratic bloc: USA, Europe, Japan.
Another is autocratic: China, Russia, North Korea.
When you give Ukraine to Russia, you lose 25 million people, your enemy gains 25mln people, enemy gains 1mln possible troops, Ukrainian ammo and drone factories and Russia becames USSR again, a powerful country once again.
Its relatively cheap to give arms to Ukrainians, so that NATO has a safe Europe and safe Europe can assist USA when needed. That was Biden politics.
Clearly Donald Trump has another idea, that Europe should pay for its protection, and its understandable as well.

No pay, no play.

Man your own castle walls shoddy EU states. There was a reason US whites left Euro

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Mar 4 2025 06:58am

Far too many transgenders

So why did you risk it all?

Ukraine was fine, the EU was fine, you had peace with Russia, trade, cheap energy, Nord Stream.

Everything blew up in your faces. Was it worth it?

Luckily my selfish interests as someone who does not want for Russia to expand align with my empathy to support the ukrainian people against the attack so I don't even have to choose.

It is also suspicious that Trumps policies perfectly align with russian interests. You all should find that suspicious too, honestly why don't you?

Trump is trying the save western Ukraine exactly for the above scenario not to happen. Zelensky wants to lose more over time instead of freezing the conflict when he is clearly losing. Trump is not the president of Ukraine, he can't force Zelensky to do his bidding. The only thing he can do is to stop the support. He did that. Now, the ball is on Zelensky's court. The support can be resumed any time. He can choose to freeze the conflict or let his nation be steam rolled by Russia.

This post was edited by babun1024 on Mar 4 2025 07:08am