It’s easy to believe things that you want to believe. A reasonable person makes an attempt to treat his own views with more skepticism than those he disagrees with.

https://nationalpost.com/news/world/anti-trump-protest-turns-to-riot-as-thousands-across-united-states-vent-anger-over-election-results

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/11/11/violence-erupts-in-portland-riot-as-anti-trump-protests-continue-in-cities-across-the-nation/

youre missing the context which is more serious, the person i responded to referenced the Reichstag fire and alluded to democrats as "civilization burners"

aside from Jan 6th, ive never seen either party attempt to storm or burn down the Capitol building or overturn the government in America

yes there has been political unrest from both sides but only one side has attempted to stop an election from being certified. i hope that is more clear

This post was edited by gnarjay on Nov 2 2024 03:08pm

I am not missing any context. You said “ no democrats rioted over those elections though”.

If you want to amend that comment into something that isn’t either a lie or an expression of ignorance then maybe we can agree on something, but you don’t get to pretend you didn’t say it.

no democrats rioted in either of those instances you posted, those were peaceful until antifa showed up as is always the case

you want to accuse me of lying when youre twisting things around to fit a narrative? ok buddy

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2016/11/11/anti-trump-protesters-pepper-sprayed-demonstrations-erupt-across-us/93633154/

This post was edited by gnarjay on Nov 2 2024 03:17pm

That’s a pretty bold claim and I’d usually ask for evidence to back it up, but you’re flopping around pretty bad already so we can skip that and move on to something more productive if you’d like.

Assuming your claim is correct, you are saying that Democrats can’t be held responsible for the actions of far-left extremists? I can agree with that if you can agree that Republicans can’t be held responsible for the actions of far-right extremists.

democrats condemned the antifa bad actors; Trump encouraged the Jan 6ers and didnt take any action until the damage had been done. people were chanting to hang mike pence and he said nothing. can we agree on these things?

I told you what I can agree with. Either both are responsible or neither. I tend to lean more towards both, but if you want to say neither I can at least see that you’re trying to be rational.

As far as I know, eight years later, Hillary Clinton continues to claim that the 2016 election was illegitimate. I provided you a quote to that effect earlier. This is the belief that led to those riots, the exact same belief that led to the riots in 2020. If you have evidence to the contrary then provide it.

You make the mistake of thinking any narcissist could ever agree to their failings.

i dont think it can be or is that black and white, especially with everyone blaming the other side for everything. both are responsible to some degree

No they didn't, democrats pretended that antifa didn't exist

They denied their existence at best and encouraged the riots at worst

This post was edited by El1te on Nov 2 2024 03:56pm