Quakers yeah were part of it and Baptist settlers a bit later. Jews? Lol. The biggest Jewish contribution in America was normalizing prostitution and gambling via Las Vegas, elevating organized crime, and speculating on the slave trade.

The bottom line is: America was built by the Protestant spirit and still embodies it, which is why it's the wealthiest and most powerful nation

My ancestors have been here for 400 years. Most likely toiling away as pioneers and settlers, probably fighting in multiple wars, building, paying in. Along with everyone else who lived in the English colonies -> USA in its inception, being Christian, speaking English, building not only the country, but what it means to be American and embracing end embodying the principles of civic duty and citizenship. People with a stake in creating, sustaining the future here. People who earned it, and whose descendants (me, etc) are entitled to call their home to continue carrying the torch.

Having the immense displeasure of knowing what I know about you, I can only assume you have no idea what those virtues mean. No sense of honor, tradition, home, sweat equity. To you, everything just falls out of the sky and should be given away to any open mouth who wants to devour it. TLDR - not all immigrants are the same. My ancestors were much better than the fentanyl-trafficking rapists you worship.

lets keep the projection to a minimum in here, thanks

Pathetic. Can you at least try to come up with a good response so this isn't so boring?

I like how you're dodging the main issue with your thread.

It's almost as if you laid your feelings into a thread and you're just waiting for someone to agree with you rather than focusing on the facts provided to you instead.

i wont entertain personal insults, im happy to discuss anything relevant

This post was edited by gnarjay on Oct 30 2024 01:23am

The relevance is the difference between a legal immigrant and an illegal immigrant. The issues that are caused when the border is overrun by the thousands of illegal immigrants is why your post is pointless. Nobody ever claimed against your original post. You left out the term illegal.

I haven't insulted you once. Again, focusing on your feelings rather than facts and evidence that is verifiable.

You want to undermine the hard-won foundational values of my civilization and ultimately destroy it, and I made you feel bad with words. Who's the bad guy here? Also I answered your question. Heart up and debate me, knave.

Mass immigration is a neoliberal position. An influx of cheap labor and additional demand on the housing markets directly fills the coffers of employers and landlords while hurting the domestic working-class.
Reagan was a neoliberal. The populist revolt led by Trump is an explicit repudiation of the neoliberal status quo; an ideology which has switched hosts in the wake of the Great Recession and has co-opted the Democratic party as its new vessel.

"The greatest trick global capital ever pulled was convincing left-leaning parties that open borders are a leftist position."

Oh, and one more thing:

It is intellectually dishonest to compare 19th century mass immigration into a country with plenty of land to settle, a huge demand for unskilled manual labor and no social safety net whatsoever with 21st century mass immigration into an increasingly crowded country with a post-industrial, knowledge-based economy and a girthy welfare system.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 30 2024 04:03am