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Oct 17 2024 09:47pm
Quote (majorblood @ 17 Oct 2024 22:35)
Not reading this garbage lol


Buddhist and Hindus influenced Jesus Christ when he went to the East wandering for 12 years in the desert. Change my mind.

Other religions existing and believing in a God prior to the Abrahamic one sort of pisses you people off.

Like I'll say again and I'll leave it here not going to stir up the bible belt.

The Abrahamic faiths do not have some "exclusive ownership of the truth" which is self evident by the way.

It's why Muslims, Jews, and Christians killed the non-believers and the Muslims still do.

The least tolerant religion is the Abrahamic as a whole. Why they all pretend their separate is beyond me.

Buddhist/Hindus didn't have to convince people with the threat of DEATH if they didn't "convert".

If you guys want to argue about which religion is the worst I'll tell you hands down it's the Abrahamic and I don't separate the jews, christians, muslims. Same bloodlines.
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Oct 17 2024 09:50pm
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Buddhist and Hindus influenced Jesus Christ when he went to the East wandering for 12 years in the desert. Change my mind.

Other religions existing and believing in a God prior to the Abrahamic one sort of pisses you people off.

Like I'll say again and I'll leave it here not going to stir up the bible belt.

The Abrahamic faiths do not have some "exclusive ownership of the truth" which is self evident by the way.

It's why Muslims, Jews, and Christians killed the non-believers and the Muslims still do.

The least tolerant religion is the Abrahamic as a whole. Why they all pretend their separate is beyond me.

Buddhist/Hindus didn't have to convince people with the threat of DEATH if they didn't "convert".

If you guys want to argue about which religion is the worst I'll tell you hands down it's the Abrahamic and I don't separate the jews, christians, muslims. Same bloodlines.


I'm not even religious, this is just a thread about Christianity and people are asking Christian questions and you're spewing irrelevant hindu garbage

go make a thread about hindus, see if you get engagement there.
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Oct 17 2024 09:54pm
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Oct 17 2024 08:34pm)
Sorry bud I interpret scripture differently then you do feel free to correct me.

Jesus didn't die for your sins. Sorry.

God doesn't exist in the way that people of the Abrahamic faith "believe" if he did we'd know it.

I know its hard to accept the mother of all religions is "Hinduism" and the Abrahamic faiths are an off-shoot.

Chronological time hits Abrahamic folks hard.

Tell someone that Buddha lived 600 years before Jesus and said virtually the same things he did and boy you are going to hell lmao :rofl:

Not going to argue about "scripture" it isn't the word of God.

The idea that people wrote down what Jesus said and knew what he meant is a huge fallacy.

edit1: Is Jesus returning in the flesh? No. Never.

Does he live in all of us right now. Yes.

So if God dwells within you then what are you?

God.

Every person is on the path to realizing "God" whether they know it or not.

The only fools are the one saying "This way is the only way". (((Abrahmic)))

Trump can still feel sorry for his "sins" and not specifically say "Jesus Christ only through you can I feel sorry!".

Makes no sense. It's why the Abrahmic faith is good but it's scripture too cryptic and filled with fallacies.


Jesus did die for our sins both in spiritual meaning and in historical reality - sacrificial offerings were ubiquitous throughout all belief systems in the world (including Hinduism where it is still practiced, and Judaism) and involved human, animal, incense. The idea behind these was to offer 'restitution' as it were to the God(s) for their acts or moral transgressions. Upon hearing the Good News and trusting in Him, these sacrificial acts are no longer considered necessary. That's the main point of understanding, Jesus bore the weight of everyone's sin upon himself such that if you believe (honestly, think the Harry Potter mirror & stone) in Him you shall not perish but have eternal life. No killing of a virgin needed.

Jesus is the fulfilment of the covenant of the prophets and the foretold Messiah (Χριστός) or Christ
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Oct 17 2024 09:58pm
When someone said, "I am God" in India in 1000bce they weren't talking about the "Abrahamic God" and they weren't killed for saying it. "He" didn't exist yet. They were talking about existence itself.

We as humans simply gave a word to the infinite/unknown/creative/destructive "force" and settled on "God".

Only the Abrahamic said "Our God is the one true God" why? Because they were ignorant.

You are God.

When Jesus said, "I am God" he got crucified because he used dangerous language. 20,000 others were crucified do we know their names?

This is why the Jews always portrayed Jesus as the carpenter regular dude he was and not some "Divine incarnation" which was later ascribed to him.

I've prayed on my hands and knees and I've meditated for endless hours. It's only you there is no God. The feeling you get when you are all alone seeking "him" is the "affirmation".

You realize that you could never be "God" or in Gods "good standing". They were merely guidelines to reveal something to you. Just like the 10 commandments. Meant to reveal something to you.
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Oct 17 2024 10:06pm
Quote (majorblood @ 17 Oct 2024 22:50)
I'm not even religious, this is just a thread about Christianity and people are asking Christian questions and you're spewing irrelevant hindu garbage

go make a thread about hindus, see if you get engagement there.


Hindus and Christians are more similar then you would dare to imagine but you chose to stay true to the "good book" I don't blame you. Just don't get pissed off when someone whose studied Buddhism/Hinduism call the gaping holes in the faith for what they are.

Half the reason our planet is about to implode is because the Abrahamic faiths can't "get along". Rightfully so they've evolved into something "ungodly" that Christ likely wouldn't approve.

I think it's funny you trash Hinduism yet it's the literal ROOT of the Abrahamic faith because it came AFTER.

That's the thing with "True Christians". Tell them that all the things Jesus said 2,000 years ago were common philosphy in India during the time-frame he lived and it's "bat shit crazy".

Yea Jesus Christ went to the East and then came back "speaking as God".

Tell me how it went down since you were there I'm just looking at things chronologically and I'm not dumb enough to say that Jesus didn't meet with the established "religions" of that time.

He simply used the language/symbols available to him to speak with a true fire. Because now Jesus knew he was God and he took it all the way up to the top. Threw the money lenders out of the temple. Got crucified for it.

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Oct 17 2024 10:08pm
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When someone said, "I am God" in India in 1000bce they weren't talking about the "Abrahamic God" and they weren't killed for saying it. "He" didn't exist yet. They were talking about existence itself.

We as humans simply gave a word to the infinite/unknown/creative/destructive "force" and settled on "God".

Only the Abrahamic said "Our God is the one true God" why? Because they were ignorant.

You are God.

When Jesus said, "I am God" he got crucified because he used dangerous language. 20,000 others were crucified do we know their names?

This is why the Jews always portrayed Jesus as the carpenter regular dude he was and not some "Divine incarnation" which was later ascribed to him.

I've prayed on my hands and knees and I've meditated for endless hours. It's only you there is no God. The feeling you get when you are all alone seeking "him" is the "affirmation".

You realize that you could never be "God" or in Gods "good standing". They were merely guidelines to reveal something to you. Just like the 10 commandments. Meant to reveal something to you.


I mean this is basically the Jewish understanding to my knowledge which is incorrect

You may have the wrong idea about God from a Catholic upbringing but the truth is that humanity never settled on 'God' or anything or this sort - there's thousands of years of history illustrated in the OT which codify humanities' struggle to understand His will. God has been called many many names, people have fallen out of faith to pagan idols (still common today), they've gone astray. That's all illustrated in the OT.

Works (such as praying) are meaningless compared to true faith. God scorns those who do works or insincere prayers in expectation of a reward, God is kind of like Crom in that he will see the treachery as an insult and curse you instead of bless you.
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Oct 17 2024 10:11pm
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Oct 17 2024 09:06pm)
Hindus and Christians are more similar then you would dare to imagine but you chose to stay true to the "good book" I don't blame you. Just don't get pissed off when someone whose studied Buddhism/Hinduism call the gaping holes in the faith for what they are.

Half the reason our planet is about to implode is because the Abrahamic faiths can't "get along". Rightfully so they've evolved into something "ungodly" that Christ likely wouldn't approve.

I think it's funny you trash Hinduism yet it's the literal ROOT of the Abrahamic faith because it came AFTER.

That's the thing with "True Christians". Tell them that all the things Jesus said 2,000 years ago were common philosphy in India during the time-frame he lived and it's "bat shit crazy".

Yea Jesus Christ went to the East and then came back "speaking as God".

Tell me how it went down since you were there I'm just looking at things chronologically and I'm not dumb enough to say that Jesus didn't meet with the established "religions" of that time.

He simply used the language/symbols available to him to speak with a true fire. Because now Jesus knew he was God and he took it all the way up to the top. Threw the money lenders out of the temple. Got crucified for it.


wall of incorrect blasphemy

jesus never went to india to learn hinduism

nice fanfic bro
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Oct 17 2024 10:15pm
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Oct 17 2024 09:06pm)
Hindus and Christians are more similar then you would dare to imagine but you chose to stay true to the "good book" I don't blame you. Just don't get pissed off when someone whose studied Buddhism/Hinduism call the gaping holes in the faith for what they are.

Half the reason our planet is about to implode is because the Abrahamic faiths can't "get along". Rightfully so they've evolved into something "ungodly" that Christ likely wouldn't approve.

I think it's funny you trash Hinduism yet it's the literal ROOT of the Abrahamic faith because it came AFTER.

That's the thing with "True Christians". Tell them that all the things Jesus said 2,000 years ago were common philosphy in India during the time-frame he lived and it's "bat shit crazy".

Yea Jesus Christ went to the East and then came back "speaking as God".

Tell me how it went down since you were there I'm just looking at things chronologically and I'm not dumb enough to say that Jesus didn't meet with the established "religions" of that time.

He simply used the language/symbols available to him to speak with a true fire. Because now Jesus knew he was God and he took it all the way up to the top. Threw the money lenders out of the temple. Got crucified for it.


Hindus can't even get along with themselves. It's still essentially a tribal religion with no supreme authority. To my understanding there are no ecumenical Hindu councils that have codified a common creed of understanding.

It's why India is still a shithole country after being patronized by my ancestors, who then gave the Frankenstein'd state its independence and its been nothing but tribal infighting and emigration back to our nations (why? They have their precious independence) since then
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Oct 17 2024 10:17pm
Quote (El1te @ 17 Oct 2024 23:06)
I mean this is basically the Jewish understanding to my knowledge which is incorrect

You may have the wrong idea about God from a Catholic upbringing but the truth is that humanity never settled on 'God' or anything or this sort - there's thousands of years of history illustrated in the OT which codify humanities' struggle to understand His will. God has been called many many names, people have fallen out of faith to pagan idols (still common today), they've gone astray. That's all illustrated in the OT.

Works (such as praying) are meaningless compared to true faith. God scorns those who do works or insincere prayers in expectation of a reward, God is kind of like Crom in that he will see the treachery as an insult and curse you instead of bless you.


How can any rational person like myself(Catholic) go and start looking at "Ancient Sanskrit" and the oldest known "religion" and then find corresponding scripture that is word for word what some of "Jesus preached".

Did he come up with that on his own? No. He borrowed it from the cultures/ideologies/symbols/language around him and like I said used "dangerous language" which at that time got you killed and in his case crucified.

All I'm telling people is that its better to go out and do good in the world then to pray for forgiveness because you are the "God" your trying to get forgiveness from.

It's nice to believe the stories. There's so many "good stories" when it comes to the story of "God" but the Abrahamic just went too far. Way too far.

Now a biblical world war 3 in the ME is being manifest and most Abrahmic folk are like "Let's do this!" as if Satan and God are going to battle it out and then Christ reigns for 1,000 years in total peace on Earth.

You are with God always.

You are not separate from exitence itself despite the world seeming "dualistic" its not. Only the human mind makes it so. Just like creating God. Only the human mind makes it so.

I'm not an atheist for a plethora of reasons but the Abrahmic faith does all other "civil religions" a terrible disservice and no "God" you worship is fond of what's going on.

So yea I'd say were in the middle of "Revelation" now can't wait to see what happens I just know men will act as God as they always have.
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Oct 17 2024 10:28pm
Quote (majorblood @ 17 Oct 2024 23:11)
wall of incorrect blasphemy

jesus never went to india to learn hinduism

nice fanfic bro


You weren't there bud but I know why you are offended.

No name rishis, sages, gurus, and mystics were as profound or more profound then Jesus Christ long before he lived. Maybe if you read scripture that predates "Jesus" you wouldn't cry "blasphemy".

Jesus Christ was a human being. Died. and did not return from the dead.

He was an example of what a human being should strive to be in this life and nothing more. Give him all the accolades and titles that's fine he deserves them but to not acknowledge his ideas were "nothing new". Come on dude.

That's why many people don't feel as connected with that as they should. Because it's false. Because they only made the "good book" in their image.

People wrote down things "Buddha said" and things he didn't say and built a philosophy around him. Same as Jesus Christ. Same as Mohamad. They all "talked to God" and then told everyone around them at that time what happened.

Jesus Christ was the 1st to say "I am God and mean it in a literal way". People were saying "I am God" for 2,000 years in India and people just looked the other way because it wasn't "uncommon".

Just use some logic really
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