The idea is societal acceptance regardless of anectdote. Homophobia was the last scare tactic, alot of trans women look like crossdressing men, I'll concede this point, and society still has hatred for gay men, now amplified towards trans people because of the rampant media attention to drag queens who have nothing to do with trans people but, society sees no difference through a lens of hate

female privilege i guess, lesbians are accepted and gay men aren't. f2m is accepted, m2f isnt.

id certainly not say drag queens have NOTHING to do with trans people, but lumping them together is pretty silly as many people do.

i do tend to agree with blacks post in the other thread a bit, m2f trans people seem to require more be done to integrate them seamlessly into society, and men are the more dangerous of the genders. its still a lot of latent homophobia because gay people for a long time have been labelled as child predators, when in reality the rates of pedophilia among gay, trans, etc people doesnt seem any higher than the cis population.

but that's really the crux, the waters are so muddy with nonissues that we often lose focus on real issues. if we just took m2f people out of female sports we'd likely see a lot of movement, thats a concession a lot of people are oddly invested in.

Please cite “anti trans” legislation.

Well I'd say you understand far more than most, appreciate your post

Like the southern poverty hate map of the recent decade? Suddenly everyone is blanketed as a hate group against fringe minorities they historically have been disproportionately indifferent about. These people aren't self identifying as hateful groups, it's a group of people pushing the ideology further doing that.

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on Oct 14 2024 03:24pm

I think most forms of media also need to move away, this includes entertainment. There's really no reason for them to constantly be trying to ram square pegs in round holes just for virtue signalling purposes.

I also think were starting to see a lot of that backfire though so we will see how long that trend continues. There's fantastic diverse work out there, but were seeing so many giants try to fit people in roles they don't belong hurting both storytelling and the actors career as well. Its a double loss. A lot of that though can just be attributed to corporate b/s. Trying too hop on and profit off whatever bandwagon they can.

I think its all detracting from what the goal is. But that's just my opinion and we certainly have made leaps and bounds in the last 100 years with progression so who am I to say.

This post was edited by SBD on Oct 14 2024 03:41pm

Hollywood has been sneaking in a little bit of virtue signaling and pushing of a liberal/progressive social agenda for literally decades. But at some point during the 2010s, things imho changed.

In the past, it felt like they were mostly preoccupied with making good movies and telling a good story, and only then added a sprinkle of liberal politics.
Since a point somewhere between 2014 and 2019, it feels as if the actual storylines and characters have been taking a backseat to the political messaging... as if the ostensible story is just a pretext for the attempt by the authors/studios to shove their politics down the throats of their audience.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 14 2024 09:54pm

Nowadays if you make a movie and don't comply to Hollywood's woke standard then your movie cannot win an Oscar no matter how good the story, the actors and so on.

They're literally counting how many men, woman, white / black people etc appear in your movie.

Because movies cost a ton of money to produce and Oscars are important all producers adhere to Hollywood's woke rules.

Sad but true

That doesn't make a lot of sense since most movies have no chance of winning an oscar by virtue of their genre or target audience, nor even aspire to win one.
If only movies with hopes of winning an oscar would get produced, there would never be another horror movie and virtually no more comedies.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Oct 15 2024 01:23am

Agreed but try to convince the wokies (mostly filthy rich Hollywood big shots and movie stars who don't even realize what's going on in the real world).

A bunch of B-movie producers prolly don't care but the big title producers absolutely do.