Quote (Mondain @ Sep 18 2024 11:10am)

Quote (Modulok2405 @ Sep 19 2024 03:59am)

Nope, not a religion.

There is no definition of the word that is official or anything.

The word Atheism is more like a general word that can capture everthing you mentioned above. You are not the first smartass who wants to tell me that an Atheist is believing that no God exists, but thats not true for every form of atheism.

Its a word and it means A for Anti and theism is self-explanatory. Its a short form of Anti- Theism and, opposed to what you or anyone whats to tell me, it in my case just means I refuse to accept god claims without any evidence to back them up.

I am not a member of any organisation or group, I am just an Atheist and I already stated how I define that word for me.

Quote (majorblood @ Sep 19 2024 06:23am)

there's plenty of evidence for jesus' divinity, not "proof" though in the same sense there is no "proof" of most things

lack of evidence is an odd thing to say, care to go into more detail?

Quote (majorblood @ Sep 19 2024 07:36am)

It would be a lot more interesting if you addressed the empty tomb instead of this hypothetical

what research have you done into the claims of divinity of jesus? what made you think the evidence was lacking or contradictory, etc.

Quote (majorblood @ Sep 19 2024 08:26am)

you've never researched evidence yet claim lack of evidence? I think a more honest approach would be to look into the evidence, even if you are non religious. ~1/3rd of the world is Christian, the West is based off of Christian values including law, morality, behavior, ideals, etc. The resurrection of Jesus is the most influential event in human history even from a secular perspective, I think it's worthy of a deeper inspection.

you cannot prove divinity with historical evidence, you can't prove anything at all with evidence so asking for 'proof' of divinity would require some type of logical argument. Science can't prove things, proof is in the realm of logic, mathematics, etc. Asking for proof is nonsensical.

Quote (ScionCapital @ Sep 19 2024 08:49pm)

As an atheist. I disagree. We believe in one less untrue thing. We believe in what has compelling evidence which is backed by science.

We are so far apart it's not worth comparing. You act as If the scale is cyclical. It's not. It's linear.

Quote (ScionCapital @ Sep 19 2024 06:05pm)

I believe no murdering of stealing is a human behavioral norm. Obviously you will have some violations. But generally people don't wish to murder or steal from each other. Has 0 to do with Christian law. As this preceeded Christian/Jewish foundation. Ridiculous to insinuate.

Quote (Shadowoffury @ Sep 19 2024 08:06pm)

You gave yourself away when you said “untrue”. Proves my point above. You “believe” there is no god, which means you are at the exact same level of faith as he is. He, at least is willing to admit to having faith.

You have a belief that you can not defend logically.

And now you can try to change the meaning of atheism to fit your needs like the others if you’d like but it’ll save us all some time if you just read my earlier posts in this thread and realize that you aren’t gonna to be able to defend your shoddy position.

You are what you hate.

Quote (ScionCapital @ Sep 19 2024 08:58pm)

If you don't out right know there is no god, you are agnostic. Atheist quite literally means outright disbelief in supernatural beings or entities.

Source: 99.99999% of atheists who understand the term.

Quote (ScionCapital @ Sep 19 2024 09:07pm)

I Don't have faith I have evidence, Which evidence leads the conclusion that there is no god. To have faith means to believe in something without evidence. You are lacking fundamental understanding of definitional Constraint upon the word faith