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Jun 16 2024 07:23pm
Quote (Meanwhile @ Jun 16 2024 08:09pm)
- Associating Israel with Its far right governement policy and then Jews with Israel is first step to anti-semitism.
- Many neo-cons hate the Jews and provide weapons expecting Israel & nearby Muslims countries to destroy each other.

This picture is a lie, an very nasty attempt to distord the truth. You really have a disgusting way to present your agenda to us, Goonshill.


You've allied yourself with literal Nazis while arguing against Israelis fighting against the people who massacred them and took hundreds hostage, and when the topic became about conspiracy theories you immediately turned to accusing those who actually support Israel of being in a conspiracy to get the Jews and Muslims to destroy each other.
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The anti-semitic response to october 7th is an alliance of far-right neo-nazis, far-left progressives, centrist neoliberals and of course above all the islamists who align with the left.
This is definitely not anything new

https://i.imgur.com/4u784kV.jpeg




What's not accurate about that?

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Jun 17 2024 08:45pm
Jones shouldn't be held liable for other people's actions. Those people, the ones who actually harassed victims' families, were adults and they were the only ones responsible.
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Quote (JessiWan @ 17 Jun 2024 21:45)
Jones shouldn't be held liable for other people's actions. Those people, the ones who actually harassed victims' families, were adults and they were the only ones responsible.


+1

Don't expect people who get their news from the top of "Google" to actually think outside the box whatsoever.

Don't expect all the Alex Jones haters to watch his show and see for themselves that back in 2012 he didn't say SHIT.

That's why I'm calling the OP an idiot. I call my family and friends idiots for saying such shitty remarks when it comes to Alex Jones.

"Did you hear those words come out of his mouth?"

No.

Someone told you what he said and you believed it.

This is the problem with todays lazy virtual signaling SJW's. They don't even do their due diligence.
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Jun 18 2024 06:25am
Maybe Jones is right about some things?

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Jun 18 2024 08:32am
Quote (SwamiVivekananda @ Jun 17 2024 04:37am)
^Meanwhile

What's not accurate about that?


I think alot of neo-cons hate jews more than anyone.

https://www.msnbc.com/opinion/msnbc-opinion/truth-many-evangelical-christians-support-israel-rcna121481

In short: they want Jews and Muslim to destroy each others.
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Don’t we have the 8th amendment explicitly talking about not imposing unreasonable and excessive fines? it feels like they just chose a number so high to basically to completely ruin him tbh.


the 8th amendment went out the window long ago when civil courts started paying people for "pain an suffering". civil courts are a place to be avoided at all costs, they have roughly the same rules as Whose Line is it Anyway.
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Jun 18 2024 09:45am
Quote (thesnipa @ Jun 18 2024 11:36am)
the 8th amendment went out the window long ago when civil courts started paying people for "pain an suffering". civil courts are a place to be avoided at all costs, they have roughly the same rules as Whose Line is it Anyway.


I'm just trying to understand how they actually backed into that number. I mean our justice system in theory is based on the four R's, with one of them being restitution. Restitution is easy when it's something quantifiable i.e. you stole 10k in merch, so restitution is that plus some additional fine or w.e. . Now obviously it's a lot more difficult with things like pain and suffering but when the guy has a net worth of 9 million and the fine is 1.5 billion, representing over 160x his worth, in what universe does that make sense and is proportional? It'd be the equivalent of me hitting someone's car drunk driving and having to buy his whole extended family to the 3rd cousin brand new cars, a few homes as well just for good measure. This feels just like some form of vengeance where you tell some sap to go rebuild real replicas of pyramid of Giza as punishment.

To me IMO, this kind of denigrates the victims here. Using your dead kid as a payday. Lawyers using the dead kids as a payday. The whole thing is just off-putting.

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I'm just trying to understand how they actually backed into that number. I mean our justice system in theory is based on the four R's, with one of them being restitution. Restitution is easy when it's something quantifiable i.e. you stole 10k in merch, so restitution is that plus some additional fine or w.e. . Now obviously it's a lot more difficult with things like pain and suffering but when the guy has a net worth of 9 million and the fine is 1.5 billion, representing over 160x his worth, in what universe does that make sense and is proportional? It'd be the equivalent of me hitting someone's car drunk driving and having to buy his whole extended family to the 3rd cousin brand new cars, a few homes as well just for good measure. This feels just like some form of vengeance where you tell some sap to go rebuild real replicas of pyramid of Giza as punishment.

To me IMO, this kind of denigrates the victims here. Using your dead kid as a payday. Lawyers using the dead kids as a payday. The whole thing is just off-putting.


they chose a number so big they could liquidate him and avoid anyone swooping in to pay it off. if it were something like 20 million, MAYBE a reasonable number, some group of silent investors could pay that off easily. 1.5 billy tho? no chance. so they'll melt him down and even if the families see next to zero cash they'll feel good thinking their greatest enemy is ruined. then he can just start a new company, host a show for almost nothing on X, and they'll realize only the lawyers won.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ 18 Jun 2024 10:45)
I'm just trying to understand how they actually backed into that number. I mean our justice system in theory is based on the four R's, with one of them being restitution. Restitution is easy when it's something quantifiable i.e. you stole 10k in merch, so restitution is that plus some additional fine or w.e. . Now obviously it's a lot more difficult with things like pain and suffering but when the guy has a net worth of 9 million and the fine is 1.5 billion, representing over 160x his worth, in what universe does that make sense and is proportional? It'd be the equivalent of me hitting someone's car drunk driving and having to buy his whole extended family to the 3rd cousin brand new cars, a few homes as well just for good measure. This feels just like some form of vengeance where you tell some sap to go rebuild real replicas of pyramid of Giza as punishment.

To me IMO, this kind of denigrates the victims here. Using your dead kid as a payday. Lawyers using the dead kids as a payday. The whole thing is just off-putting.


+1

None of it is even remotely "equivocal". Why do you think people who can think KNOW this is a GIANT LEAP in the wrong direction. You can hate Alex Jones that's fine and he is a free speech absolutist so he won't sue you 10 years later for a TRILLION dollars in "emotional damages".

If the parents of the victims wanted to move forward in their life and try and find peace they wouldn't have went after the boogie man "Alex Jones" they should've went after big pharma knowing full well Adam Lanza was on multiple Anti-Psychotics/SSRI's when he went and SOULESSLY killed those children. They could've sued big pharma for billions and won considering some of the medications he was on say on the insert, "May make you homicidal" / "May make you lose sense of reality".

Instead they sued the gun maker and Alex Jones.

Quote (thesnipa @ 18 Jun 2024 11:02)
they chose a number so big they could liquidate him and avoid anyone swooping in to pay it off. if it were something like 20 million, MAYBE a reasonable number, some group of silent investors could pay that off easily. 1.5 billy tho? no chance. so they'll melt him down and even if the families see next to zero cash they'll feel good thinking their greatest enemy is ruined. then he can just start a new company, host a show for almost nothing on X, and they'll realize only the lawyers won.


+1

Alex Jones will only get bigger because of this and only the lawyers win like you said.

Literally everywhere Alex Jones goes and when his name is spoken it goes hand and hand with "Sandy Hook". The parents don't get their children back and Sandy Hook gets talked about 12 years after it happened. Will continue to get talked about even more when Infowars gets shut down and people ask "why was it shutdown"...
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