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Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Feb 12 2024 02:13pm)
It doesn't seem very convincing at all. I get the impression your finessing the definitions to suit the narrative.

6 trans shooters in 2 years is an epidemic but 5000 mass shootings in 10 years is not?


You're engaging in the same propaganda that other posters said in this thread

We're taking about terrorist-esque mass shootings, not all shootings. Niggers shoot each other up all the time on a daily basis and this is where the "5000" mass shooting number comes from

It is not me who is loose with the definitions. It's very clear: a shooting targeting random innocent people is what we're talking about here, NOT all shootings whatsoever (black people rule the roost here not trans people)
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Feb 12 2024 04:24pm
If we want to be more specific and talk about shootings where children are directly targeted, trans people are by far in the lead
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Quote (Goomshill @ Feb 12 2024 02:17pm)
Has this thread already devolved into the "mass shooting statistics being padded by including gang bangers doing a driveby on a drug dealing street corner"

I think the average American can distinguish between terrorist attacks and street crime, between attacks targeting members of the public with political/social/religious motives, versus the ongoing mutual combat of gang fighting each other


It's just so obvious that it's malicious propaganda on their part
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Quote (Handcuffs @ Feb 12 2024 02:06pm)
How is it a "propaganda talking point" if it's true though?


When's the last time a priest executed a child in cold blood?
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Has this thread already devolved into the "mass shooting statistics being padded by including gang bangers doing a driveby on a drug dealing street corner"

I think the average American can distinguish between terrorist attacks and street crime, between attacks targeting members of the public with political/social/religious motives, versus the ongoing mutual combat of gang fighting each other


Post the unpadded statistics?
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Feb 12 2024 04:31pm
Quote (Blizane @ Feb 12 2024 04:03pm)
https://www.britannica.com/topic/mass-shooting

Also, El1te specifically referenced mass.


Mind you the definitions are completely arbitrary and the data points are often invalid. For example, that timeline only includes attacks that killed at least 3 people even if there were many more attempted and failed attacks, like the one in the OP here. And even among the restrictive definition, we've got the colorado springs shooter who identifies as transgender and uses they/them pronouns (5 killed), the christian school shooter who was transgender targeting cis kids (6 killed), the aberdeen shooter who was black and trans (4 killed). That's not including the transgender STEM shooter who targeted cis kids, since that was only 1 killed, which excludes it from this arbitrary definition but would be included in anyone's rational list of "what americans consider a terrorist attack / mass shooting" since its a kid walking into a school and trying to mass murder people with a rifle

That timeline's summary includes 3 of those incidents but only lists 1 transgender shooter in 151 incidents. So its actually 3/151, which would be nearly 2% of all shooters, despite covering a 40 year range when trans nonsense didn't even exist, and still only makes up what, 0.6% of the population in very liberal estimates

I imagine any other statistical analysis is going to be similarly flawed, either they're using obviously invalid data or silly definitions

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Feb 12 2024 04:28pm)
Post the unpadded statistics?


better yet, don't make statistical arguments in the first place
I mean, who decides what the 'unpadded statistics' are? Who decides whether to quantify the colorado springs shooter as cis or transgender, when he self-identifies as transgender but in a delicious fit of irony the trannies want to deny his gender identity and label him cis

This post was edited by Goomshill on Feb 12 2024 04:34pm
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Feb 12 2024 04:33pm
Quote (El1te @ Feb 12 2024 10:24pm)
If we want to be more specific and talk about shootings where children are directly targeted, trans people are by far in the lead


Based on what evidence over what timescale?

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Mind you the definitions are completely arbitrary and the data points are often invalid. For example, that timeline only includes attacks that killed at least 3 people even if there were many more attempted and failed attacks, like the one in the OP here. And even among the restrictive definition, we've got the colorado springs shooter who identifies as transgender and uses they/them pronouns (5 killed), the christian school shooter who was transgender targeting cis kids (6 killed), the aberdeen shooter who was black and trans (4 killed). That's not including the transgender STEM shooter who targeted cis kids, since that was only 1 killed, which excludes it from this arbitrary definition but would be included in anyone's rational list of "what americans consider a terrorist attack / mass shooting" since its a kid walking into a school and trying to mass murder people with a rifle

That timeline's summary includes 3 of those incidents but only lists 1 transgender shooter in 151 incidents. So its actually 3/151, which would be nearly 2% of all shooters, despite covering a 40 year range when trans nonsense didn't even exist, and still only makes up what, 0.6% of the population in very liberal estimates

I imagine any other statistical analysis is going to be similarly flawed, either they're using obviously invalid data or silly definitions



better yet, don't make statistical arguments in the first place


Ok not making this statistical then.

How is a trans person more likely to be a shooter?
But only in cases where the victims were innocent, whatever that means.
And not black either
Go.
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Feb 12 2024 04:38pm
Is this not a case of the tail wagging the dog?

5,000 mass shootings in ten years but the right want to talk about gender politics?

Isn't the elephant in the room here, I don't know... Gun control?

This post was edited by Prox1m1ty on Feb 12 2024 04:38pm
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When's the last time a priest executed a child in cold blood?


The disparity between the number of children victimized by transgender perpetrators and those in some kind of religious institution is vast.
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