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#31
Jan 7 2024 12:41pm
Quote (Landmine @ Jan 7 2024 10:40am)
Holy fantasy land.



“The Mueller Report did not find any evidence of collusion”


These guys call us the conspiracy theorists. Still going on about 9 year old debunked (by their own people) unhinged conspiracies :bonk:
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#32
Jan 7 2024 12:44pm
Quote (Landmine @ Jan 7 2024 10:40am)
Holy fantasy land.



“The Mueller Report did not find any evidence of collusion”


That quote isn't in the article, so your post is kind of misleading. The Mueller report did find evidence of collusion, but it did not find conclusive evidence. The Senate investigation did.

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#33
Jan 7 2024 12:44pm
Quote (Landmine @ Jan 7 2024 10:40am)
Holy fantasy land.



“The Mueller Report did not find any evidence of collusion”



POT MEET KETTLE

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The Mueller Report states that if the Special Counsel’s Office felt they could clear the president of wrongdoing, they would have said so. Instead, the Report explicitly states that it “does not exonerate” the President[10] and explains that the Office of Special Counsel “accepted” the Department of Justice policy that a sitting President cannot be indicted.
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#34
Jan 7 2024 12:49pm
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Dear Lord. You are fucking delusional brother
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What collusion fairy tale? The Trump campaign did collude with Russia. This is an established fact. The Senate intelligence committee confirmed that(see Manafort/Kilimnik).


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C'mon, you're better than this
This is 2024 not 2018, you don't need to keep yourself glued to the debunked collusion nothingburger.
You know perfectly well the Manafort thing has nothing to do with Trump and meant fuck-all to anyone and doesn't come anywhere close to anyone's definition of 'collusion'.
You know perfectly well Trump Jr just listened to some activists pushing a magnitsky act deal with fake Clinton dirt as bait, which Trump jr suspected and confirmed was fake and then told them to bugger off

I admit when I make mistakes or even buy into theories that get debunked. I repeatedly said in 2016 that the RNC was just using Trump as a lightning rod to soak up bad publicity in the primaries so they could run their real candidate untarnished, whoops, my bad. I even did some campaigning for Joe Biden in 2008 because I thought he was the candidate most likely to take a sane and cautious foreign policy strategy to undo the mistakes of the Bush years, whoops my bad again.
It shouldn't be like pulling teeth to get you to admit that Trump didn't collude with Russia, that Hillary Clinton's campaign purposefully spun it out of wholecloth and her allies in the FBI pushed to investigate it it knowing full well it was made up by Clinton.
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#35
Jan 7 2024 12:56pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jan 7 2024 10:49am)
:bonk:
C'mon, you're better than this
This is 2024 not 2018, you don't need to keep yourself glued to the debunked collusion nothingburger.
You know perfectly well the Manafort thing has nothing to do with Trump and meant fuck-all to anyone and doesn't come anywhere close to anyone's definition of 'collusion'.
You know perfectly well Trump Jr just listened to some activists pushing a magnitsky act deal with fake Clinton dirt as bait, which Trump jr suspected and confirmed was fake and then told them to bugger off

I admit when I make mistakes or even buy into theories that get debunked. I repeatedly said in 2016 that the RNC was just using Trump as a lightning rod to soak up bad publicity in the primaries so they could run their real candidate untarnished, whoops, my bad. I even did some campaigning for Joe Biden in 2008 because I thought he was the candidate most likely to take a sane and cautious foreign policy strategy to undo the mistakes of the Bush years, whoops my bad again.
It shouldn't be like pulling teeth to get you to admit that Trump didn't collude with Russia, that Hillary Clinton's campaign purposefully spun it out of wholecloth and her allies in the FBI pushed to investigate it it knowing full well it was made up by Clinton.


I understand it's hard for you to admit that the evidence shows the Trump campaign colluded with Russia, because for years you thought that would be impossible. They did it. I just posted a NPR article which discusses the bipartisan Senate intelligence committee investigation which confirmed they colluded. Obviously you can't rebut the evidence, so you are doing a toddler-like denial of it. Kind of weird man.
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#36
Jan 7 2024 12:57pm
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I was right all along about collusion. You were wrong. It wasn't the silly Chris Steele dossier narrative about collusion, but it was collusion.

No you weren’t. I asked you on a scale of 1-10 what you thought the odds are that Trump colluded with Russia in a way that effected the outcome of the election & you said a 8. Now you’re claiming you were “right all along” because Manafort shared polling data with Kilimnik, some of which was already in the public domain. Nobody in the entity of pard has been consistently wrong more than you, with the exception of maybe pollster.
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#37
Jan 7 2024 12:58pm
Quote (IceMage @ 7 Jan 2024 19:44)
That quote isn't in the article, so your post is kind of misleading. The Mueller report did find evidence of collusion, but it did not find conclusive evidence. The Senate investigation did.


This was the bottom line of the Mueller report with regard to Russia collusion:
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The report concludes that the investigation "did not establish that members of the Trump campaign conspired or coordinated with the Russian government in its election interference activities"




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#38
Jan 7 2024 01:02pm
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That quote isn't in the article, so your post is kind of misleading. The Mueller report did find evidence of collusion, but it did not find conclusive evidence. The Senate investigation did.


https://www.npr.org/2019/03/24/706385781/mueller-report-finds-evidence-of-russian-collusion
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#39
Jan 7 2024 01:05pm
Never Trumpers are firmly in lockstep with antisemitic genocidaires e.g.
gnarjay
but still haven't figured out that they're on the wrong side of history
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#40
Jan 7 2024 01:09pm
Quote (IceMage @ Jan 7 2024 12:56pm)
I understand it's hard for you to admit that the evidence shows the Trump campaign colluded with Russia, because for years you thought that would be impossible. They did it. I just posted a NPR article which discusses the bipartisan Senate intelligence committee investigation which confirmed they colluded. Obviously you can't rebut the evidence, so you are doing a toddler-like denial of it. Kind of weird man.


I have about the same interest in this debate as I do in discussing how the earth is flat or the phlogiston saturation of the ether. Its not just that we know beyond any certainty that the collusion narrative was a hoax, its like at this point we're trodding a ground where a horse was beaten into a pulp so long ago that its remains desiccated, withered to dust and were absorbed by the soil and the ground no longer bears any marking of their message. Its 2024, its not even worth calling it a delusion to bring up collusion anymore, its a comical act you'd pull at parties to get a chuckle out of the long stale reference and make people uncomfortable as they recollect how they actually listened to that tripe years ago.

Nothing I can say will bring you to reality, so why would I bother? If you choose to believe that Trump is actually a six winged sky demon named Pazulugran and won't recognize any amount of evidence to the contrary, I feel like trying to explain to you that he's not actually a magical sky demon would reflect more on my poor decision than yours at this point.
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