Quote (Bazi @ Dec 9 2023 12:51pm)
He’s getting a lot of hate and I don’t have a strong opinion on him one way or another but I will ask
Has anyone had experience with Tesla auto drive and also Waymo self driving?
This is still probably the biggest bull case for Tesla, reasonably priced EV giving the company a ridiculous amount of raw data. That data is intellectual property that it is difficult to objectify
I have personal experience with Tesla self driving for about a week, about a year ago. I was pleasantly surprised, this was in suburban streets.
You can argue he isn’t the mastermind for it and he’s replaceable and that’s valid, I’m more taking about Tesla as opposed to Elon
Spacex is also unarguably a success story. Although as Thor said Elon doesn’t play a huge role there anymore - although he was instrumental in getting the donors to get it to the position it’s in now. Hype men are unironically still needed in society
SpaceX is interesting. He basically saw that NASA was getting gouged by Russia on space flights and said "Hey, what if we gouge them instead. We're in the USA which would be preferable". And hired some exceptionally talented rocket engineers to make it happen by buying and copying Russian rocket tech.
They've also never turned a profit, and stand to lose an absolutely staggering amount of cash on the development of Starship and their failure to make the moon missions by 2025. There hasn't been much real progress on resuable rockets, and even if they did the rockets themselves are like 2% of the cost of a launch. The payload always dwarfs the cost of the entire rest of the operation so it's questionable that even if they did get the reusability to where they want it if it would even be worth it.
So we'll see how it ends up. NASA probably won't let them fail since they're the main source of American launches.
This post was edited by Thor123422 on Dec 9 2023 04:23pm