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Isaac Newton and Alfred Nobel beg to differ, to name just two examples.


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sure, now do jessiwan


It is so true, if you do not have children, you better have some great achievement to cement your legacy and memory after death. But this of course is an extremely small minority.

In this line of thought, choosing to achieve great things for civilization instead of having children is a tremendous sacrifice (and gamble)
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It is so true, if you do not have children, you better have some great achievement to cement your legacy and memory after death. But this of course is an extremely small minority.


I don't understand this desire to be remembered by humanity. Who cares? As long as you did the right things, and gave it your all, you have truly lived your life. Whether the posterity venerates my name means jack all to me.
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Quote (JessiWan @ Dec 1 2023 12:33pm)
I don't understand this desire to be remembered by humanity. Who cares? As long as you did the right things, and gave it your all, you have truly lived your life. Whether the posterity venerates my name means jack all to me.


To me it is more about the influence you have on the world after you're gone. With family, you propagate your excellence and will forwards into the future indefinitely until the family is extinct. Achieving great things also furthers this goal, e.g. the influence of the Founding Father's on America or the influence of Maxwell on the codification of the electromagnetic force.

Now I'd say yeah alot of people have no desire to propagate their influence or improve their environment. Nietzche discussed this with the concepts of the "last man", which is someone totally consumed by their own decadence which leads to the eventual extinct of humanity.
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Nobody is saying that illegals don't work hard. But why can't they work hard in their own countries?
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Nobody is saying that illegals don't work hard. But why can't they work hard in their own countries?


why work hard for 2 dollars a day when you can work hard for 20 dollars an hour? you'd have to be a real bozo to not see why
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Nobody is saying that illegals don't work hard. But why can't they work hard in their own countries?


Ask everyone who hires them why that is
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Quote (gnarjay @ Dec 1 2023 08:43pm)
why work hard for 2 dollars a day when you can work hard for 20 dollars an hour? you'd have to be a real bozo to not see why


But not everything is measured by money. They should have stayed in their own countries and worked hard to build them up, so that they and their descendants won't have to migrate to another country.

Besides, we don't want people who are only motivated by money. These illegals have no respect for laws. They are willing to break laws by sneaking into another country illegally, just to make some filthy lucre. And apparently you make excuses for these people.

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Ask everyone who hires them why that is


Why would someone know the reason for why another person does certain things?

You say shit like this because you are afraid to answer my question.
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