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Nov 30 2023 09:07am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 30 2023 03:43am)
"The unfair conditions in the Treaty of Versailles terminally destablized the Weimar Republic and thus paved the way for Hitler's rise to power. Hence, the French bear significant co-responsibility for the Holocaust."


It should be blatantly obvious how absurd and logically flawed this kind of reasoning is.


The Holocaust, maybe not, but Russia and France deserve most of the blame for WWI and WWII.
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Nov 30 2023 10:08am
Quote (Goomshill @ 29 Nov 2023 23:21)
He can be our sin eater. After all, for most of the critics I read, Pol Pot didn't kill anyone in Cambodia, Kissinger did them all. The spread of communism posed no threat, the only threat was American imperialism. The Arabs own none of their backwardness, they were made backwards by our shadowy hand. We can pin it all on Kissinger and bury it with him


That's the modus operandi of most Rosicrucian's. They see their life as a sacrifice to the greater good of liberty and free will and it's continuance down the line of human history generation after generation. They'll take the "your going to hell" and look right back at you and say, "Then what are you so worried about". They made the decisions that no one wanted to have to make and took full causal blame/ownership of that karmic repercussion. That's why Rosicrucian's admire Jesus Christ/Akhenaten/ amongst others because they "carried the torch of liberty" even when it meant their own death/demise/slander. They were able to foresee a future where humans would have the freedom to simply "think" and "believe" as they so pleased if they made the hard decision right then and there no matter the price.

The universe is not all light it's actually dark too and that's both a physical and metaphysical manifestation.

It's always Westerners who have trouble understanding that death and destruction go hand and hand with life and the perpetuity of it.

It comes down to cause/effect but some of the "worst" people to ever walk the Earth still played a part in where we are today. They also "thought" they were doing "good". So no matter what they were told as they lived and no matter what we think of them today they were none the less "one of us".

Like you said, "He'll carry those sins with him". Some bear the burden for all.

This post was edited by SwamiVivekananda on Nov 30 2023 10:08am
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Nov 30 2023 10:20am
Good fuckin riddance bruh
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Nov 30 2023 11:06am
Quote (bogie160 @ 30 Nov 2023 16:07)
The Holocaust, maybe not, but Russia and France deserve most of the blame for WWI and WWII.


WWI was a collective effort. Maybe Germany/Austria-Hungary bear the biggest individual responsibility, like... 40% Central Powers, 35% Triple Entente, 25% everyone else.

Another major war in Europe was more or less inevitable after the way WWI had ended, but the scope and destruction of WWII are mostly on Germany and Japan, as are the unprecedented human rights violations. The nazis had been preparing for a big war ever since seizing power in 1933. They engaged in massive deficit spending and money printing to re-arm the country, it was their version of Keynesian economic policy, allowed Germany to leave the Great Depression behind and helped the popularity of the nazis with the common people. But it was never sustainable; the whole policy was always geared toward conquering and exploiting foreign territories to recoup the "investment". Hence, I have a hard time blaming other countries for the outbreak of WWII.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 30 2023 12:06pm)
WWI was a collective effort. Maybe Germany/Austria-Hungary bear the biggest individual responsibility, like... 40% Central Powers, 35% Triple Entente, 25% everyone else.

Another major war in Europe was more or less inevitable after the way WWI had ended, but the scope and destruction of WWII is mostly on Germany and Japan, as are the unprecedented human rights violations. The nazis had been preparing for a big war ever since seizing power in 1933. They engaged in massive deficit spending and money printing to re-arm the country, it was their version of Keynesian economic policy, allowed Germany to leave the Great Depression behind and helped the popularity of the nazis with the common people. But it was never sustainable; the whole policy was always geared toward conquering and exploiting foreign territories to recoup the "investment". Hence, I have a hard time blaming other countries for the outbreak of WWII.


WWI broke out because of Russian meddling in the Balkans and the belief among Russian generals that they would win a war. The French in turn saw the opportunity to avenge the Franco-Prussian disaster. German missteps are primarily the fault of the Kaiser's blundering foreign policy, but Germany had no recourse once Russia mobilized. Austria-Hungary was correct to say that the Serbian government was in bed with the black hand, and Russian support for Serbia is why they so aggressively pursued an expansionist greater slav state at Austria-Hungary's expense.

WWII is a function of WWI. The Nazis deserve to take full accountability for how they handled the situation, but they were only ever given the opportunity because of how the first world war played out. In retrospect, they should have rapidly decreased the pace of rearmament after Munich, and Poland was better as a buffer to the USSR than it was under German control. You can economically exploit Eastern Europe within overt political control. Just look at Germany and Eastern Europe today.
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Nov 30 2023 11:46am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Nov 30 2023 12:43am)
"The unfair conditions in the Treaty of Versailles terminally destablized the Weimar Republic and thus paved the way for Hitler's rise to power. Hence, the French bear significant co-responsibility for the Holocaust."


It should be blatantly obvious how absurd and logically flawed this kind of reasoning is.


1)your comparison is a strawman
2)what I said is common knowledge
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Nov 30 2023 12:01pm
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Nov 29 2023 06:56pm)
soon.
I actually told my group Chat that Kissinger will be next after Charlie Munger died

I called it on 29th of November


https://i.imgur.com/Ry7RJzml.jpg


Bruh, so you're doxxing your own assassinations?
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Nov 30 2023 12:46pm
calling kissinger a problem solver is honestly absurd, he dealt with things that only existed because of people like him

its like scott ritter said, the US start problems to then dictate the solution

get fucked "henry"
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Nov 30 2023 01:18pm
Quote (JessiWan @ 30 Nov 2023 22:42)
That's because you think like an animal, not a human. You can only think in terms of power and domination.


That is how the world works for the past 3000 to 4000 years. If it can be solved with tree hugging hippies we will all be having no wars and peace forever.
Countless of thinkers, sages , humanitarian tried to problem solve, non succeed.

The best of these peace makers manage to keep casualties to the lowest minimal possible and that is a success.
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Nov 30 2023 01:19pm
Quote (Handcuffs @ 1 Dec 2023 02:01)
Bruh, so you're doxxing your own assassinations?


next might be Soros. they are all in their 90s , time to go.
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