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Nov 7 2023 09:36pm
Quote (Crunkt @ Nov 7 2023 09:21pm)
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Allah and God are the same dude btw

like literally one dude


I agree allah and god are one in the same.

The thing you don't understand is not everyone worships the same 'god'.
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Nov 7 2023 09:37pm
Quote (Crunkt @ 7 Nov 2023 20:20)
tehre are different interpretations of whether or not the Quran condones or recants the story of Jesus christ in exact description. Same how the depictions of Jesus in Matthew are different than the depictions in the Corinthians

You cant just say 'it isnt EXACTLY WORD FOR WORD the EXACT SAME in EVERY WAY so therefore its wrong and a lie when The literal Bible contradicts itself in how it tells the story of Jesus christ


Any contradiction or supposed contradiction was never a contradiction I have debunked ALL of these so called contradictions, in fact I went to one website that claimed it listed hundreds of contradictions and each time I went through one I was able to find the answer in scripture easily.

There are no different interpretations of the Quran. Im going to stop replying to you because I think you are trolling me or you actually think what youre saying is true.

Muslims will laugh in your face if you say the story of Jesus in the bible is the same of the story of Isa in the Quran.

You clearly have not researched theology as much as I have.

Not to be mean, just stating facts.

edit: Also Muslims will laugh at you if you tell them there is different interpretations of Quran, ALL Muslims will tell you there is only ONE quran, even though there are different qiraats.

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Nov 7 2023 09:45pm
Quote (DCEVO @ 7 Nov 2023 17:24)
I am Christian. I believe Jesus is Lord. Every time I talk to a Muslim they are so sure and I am so sure.

I can clear up any misconception so far thanks to help of GOD.

But they get so combative while insulting its like they are trolling.

Things I would like to ask PARD:

1. Who is Allah and how did this name first come into existence, was it through Muhammad, or was it earlier? I had received some information at google about islam and watching some Christian Prince and Shamounian, many Christian and Catholic apologists, and I am currently researching Islam to reach the Muslims and get them to be saved.


It is not your responsibility or obligation to try and get "Muslims saved". They already believe they are saved/redeemed/martyred according to their own doctrine.

As a Christian your life should be dedicated to Jesus Christ and his teachings and you should to the best of your ability follow his teachings and preach his gospel!

It is a fruitless effort to try and convert those who themselves turn their face from the Lord. Confide in the Lord and no one else for that is YOUR covenant with God.

May God give you the strength, courage, and wisdom to do these things in good faith. A faith unwavering and unmoved by the temptations of man.

May you find peace and glory in his Kingdom. The Kingdom promised unto you.

God Bless!!
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Nov 7 2023 11:21pm
Quote (DCEVO @ Nov 7 2023 03:24pm)
I am Christian. I believe Jesus is Lord. Every time I talk to a Muslim they are so sure and I am so sure.

I can clear up any misconception so far thanks to help of GOD.

But they get so combative while insulting its like they are trolling.

Things I would like to ask PARD:

1. Who is Allah and how did this name first come into existence, was it through Muhammad, or was it earlier? I had received some information at google about islam and watching some Christian Prince and Shamounian, many Christian and Catholic apologists, and I am currently researching Islam to reach the Muslims and get them to be saved.


so many misconception everywhere, most replies seems at best misinformed and some filled with hate/bigoted.

As a Muslim, I can answer some of those misconception as best I can.

#1 Allah is the Arabic word for God. It existed with the language long before Islam, Christianity and Judaism. for example, my arab Christian friends and use the word Allah to refer to their god (the father). This is a common tactic used to create a divide and separate alienate by not translating certain words and keeping the arabic name. Examples: Barak Obama went to "madrasa". Madrasa just means school in Arabic. I went to madrasa too where I learned math calculus physics and chemistry.

#2 No muslim can call himself muslin without acknowledging the miraculous birth of Jesus Chris and accepting that he is one of god's mightiest messenger. and His mother Mary is chosen above all other women (Mary is much higher status than Mohammed mothers).

#3 A strict definition for muslim is someone who submits his will to god. that's it. muslim litral translation is "who submits his will". based on this we believe Jesus Christ, Moses, Abraham are Muslim because they believed in God.

#4 if someone get combative, that's on them not the group. You name one group of people that contains 2 billion people. I can show you uncountable number of criminals and evil people that belong to that group.

#5 being a muslim doesn't get you to heaven. infact the worst place in hell is reserved for muslims since they know better (they have the book) yet they still chose to do evil. which is worse than non Muslims doing evil.

#6 discussing relegion with other people in the hope of guiding them to the right path is encouraged same with all relegions, but it need to be done with a willing person and in kind. otherwise it's doing the opposite.
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Nov 7 2023 11:42pm
Quote (DCEVO @ 7 Nov 2023 22:37)
Any contradiction or supposed contradiction was never a contradiction I have debunked ALL of these so called contradictions, in fact I went to one website that claimed it listed hundreds of contradictions and each time I went through one I was able to find the answer in scripture easily.

There are no different interpretations of the Quran. Im going to stop replying to you because I think you are trolling me or you actually think what youre saying is true.

Muslims will laugh in your face if you say the story of Jesus in the bible is the same of the story of Isa in the Quran.

You clearly have not researched theology as much as I have.

Not to be mean, just stating facts.

edit: Also Muslims will laugh at you if you tell them there is different interpretations of Quran, ALL Muslims will tell you there is only ONE quran, even though there are different qiraats.


you alone have debunked every single contradiction in the bible all by yourself?
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Nov 9 2023 06:08am
Every religion thinks they are right and the rest isnt. Theres no difference.

The reason is obvious: They are all wrong.

Atheists and religious people arent that different. Atheists just believe in one less religion than so called believers.

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Nov 9 2023 06:16am
Quote (fender @ Nov 8 2023 01:06am)
why would ANYONE think they are "right" about a matter which is solely based on belief? rough estimates are that some 20,000 major gods were worshipped in the history of mankind. the arrogance of many religious people to insist they've got it right, and everyone else throughout time got it wrong, always amuses me.


Gervais has a good take on this, paraphrasing him.

Talking to a religious believer,

"Out of the thousands of gods, as an atheist I only believe in one less god than you do"
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Nov 10 2023 05:36pm
Quote (Crunkt @ Nov 7 2023 06:21pm)
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Allah and God are the same dude btw

like literally one dude

The Koran is the third book in the series


comparing quranic text and the gospel its abundantly clear they are not the "same dude"
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Nov 10 2023 05:51pm
Quote (Modulok2405 @ Nov 9 2023 04:08am)
Every religion thinks they are right and the rest isnt. Theres no difference.

The reason is obvious: They are all wrong.

Atheists and religious people arent that different. Atheists just believe in one less religion than so called believers.


atheist statement in their own godhood. no one is higher and mightier than an 'atheist making them the greatest religious kooks ever to walk the land and perhaps the greatest verification of scripture.

Quote (Prox1m1ty @ Nov 9 2023 04:16am)
Gervais has a good take on this, paraphrasing him.

Talking to a religious believer,

"Out of the thousands of gods, as an atheist I only believe in one less god than you do"


atheist saying "no (G)god(s) is a godhood claim
to make such a claim the amount of knowledge one must claim is staggering
the arrogance and pride of the 'atheist beyond mortal comprehension........?
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Nov 10 2023 06:00pm
Quote (TiStuff @ 10 Nov 2023 18:36)
comparing quranic text and the gospel its abundantly clear they are not the "same dude"


you cant just say that and think its true bro like your perception of reality is incorrect
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